Igor,

What are the advantages of such mapping compared to the proposed approach?

1. From Redis perspective, we can have only 16 databases.
2. We will still have to define the cache in xml or programmatically, but make 
things more complicated (a user will have to specify database n in Redis 
configuration, but a real cache name in Ignite settings).

Roman

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On Mon, 4/24/17, Seliverstov Igor <gvvinbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Null cache names
 To: dev@ignite.apache.org, "Roman Shtykh" <rsht...@yahoo.com>
 Received: Monday, April 24, 2017, 10:49 PM
 
 Roman,
 Why
 can't we use just some kind of mapping to bind Redis
 database ID to cache name and define it via xml or
 programmatically?
 In
 this case 0 database will be mapped to a default cache, so
 that we won't break abstraction in Redis
 terms.
 Regards,Igor
 2017-04-24 12:43 GMT+03:00
 Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>:
 Vladimir,
 
 Probably we may set the cache name via https://redis.io/commands/
 client-setname, save it and use until the user specifies
 another name.
 
 #That will be the name for the default cache (mainly for
 STRING data). For other data types, like hashes (https://redis.io/topics/data-
 types), I am thinking about putting data into caches
 specified by key.
 
 Or use https://redis.io/commands/
 config-set CONFIG SET DFLT_CACHE cache_name,and save
 cache name somewhere in Ignite cluster (what is the proper
 place to store such info?).
 
 For that, we have to implement one of the above-mentioned
 commands. 
 
 What do you think?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     On Monday, April 24, 2017 4:34 PM, Vladimir Ozerov
 <voze...@gridgain.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Roman,
 
 Is it possible to define a kind of property in Redis
 connection string (or
 
 property map) for this purpose? IMO ideally we should
 "externalize" cache
 
 name somehow, so that it can be changed with no changes to
 user's code.
 
 
 
 Alex,
 
 Not sure if this is a good idea as you will end up with
 PARTITIONED cache
 
 without backups with no ability to change that.
 
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Alexey Kuznetsov <akuznet...@apache.org>
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 > Roman,
 
 >
 
 > Just as idea, how about in case of user does not
 configured "REDIS_CACHE"
 
 >  then create it via ignite.getOrCreateCache(new
 
 > CacheConfiguration("REDIS_ CACHE"))
 
 > and prin warning to log "REDIS_CACHE not
 configured, using default
 
 > partitioned cache".
 
 >
 
 > What do you think?
 
 >
 
 > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Roman Shtykh
 <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
 
 > wrote:
 
 >
 
 > > Denis, Igor,
 
 > > What can be done now
 
 > > 1. create a default cache name for Redis data,
 e.g. "REDIS_CACHE" that
 
 > has
 
 > > to be configured explicitly in xml file (as it is
 done with other caches)
 
 > > by a user if he/she needs Redis protocol.
 
 > > 2. Force users to specify cache names as prefix to
 their keys, so that we
 
 > > can parse and switch between caches.
 
 > > The 1st one is a very quick fix I can do today.
 This can be extended in
 
 > > future to have a separate cache for each data
 type.
 
 > > Roman
 
 > >
 
 > >
 
 > >    On Monday, April 24, 2017 12:15 AM, Denis
 Magda <dma...@gridgain.com
 
 > >
 
 > > wrote:
 
 > >
 
 > >
 
 > >  Roman, would you suggest a quick solution for
 the redis integration or
 
 > > even
 
 > > implement it in the nearest couple of days? We
 need to change the defaul
 
 > > cache name in 2.0. Otherwise, it can be done only
 in an year or so in
 
 > 3.0.
 
 > >
 
 > > Denis
 
 > >
 
 > > On Sunday, April 23, 2017, Seliverstov Igor <gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
 
 > wrote:
 
 > >
 
 > > > Hi Roman,
 
 > > >
 
 > > > The ticket number is IGNITE-3488.
 
 > > >
 
 > > > It's planned not to have null-named or
 default caches at all. All the
 
 > > > caches must be defined explicitly or via
 templates and have names. The
 
 > > > current implementation uses a cache with null
 name, so, we need some
 
 > > > configuration property to define which cache
 to use or mapping in case
 
 > of
 
 > > > using Redis databases.
 
 > > >
 
 > > > Regards,
 
 > > > Igor
 
 > > >
 
 > > > 22 апр. 2017 г. 8:47
 пользователь "Roman Shtykh"
 
 > > <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > написал:
 
 > > >
 
 > > > > Hi Igor,
 
 > > > > The current implementation supports only
 STRING data type of Redis.
 
 > In
 
 > > > > addition, AFAIK, scaling Redis per
 dataset is normally done via
 
 > running
 
 > > > > separate instances of Redis for each
 dataset. Therefore my choice was
 
 > > > > storing to the default cache. It looks
 fine from Redis' perspective,
 
 > > but
 
 > > > > probably not from Ignite's.For other
 data types like HASH or SORTED
 
 > > SET,
 
 > > > I
 
 > > > > planned to specify cache name by key and
 treat value inside as
 
 > Ignite's
 
 > > > > key-values.# Redis has a notion of
 'database' and you can switch
 
 > > between
 
 > > > > them, but they can be referred only by
 the number, and limited to 16
 
 > > > > databases... Not very useful, IMO.
 
 > > > > If you still have the default cache, the
 current Redis integration
 
 > > should
 
 > > > > work as is (I have to recheck it, what
 is the JIRA ticket for the
 
 > null
 
 > > > > cache issue?)
 
 > > > > Do you just want to be sure your changes
 don't affect the Redis
 
 > > > > integration, or do you want to extend it
 to switch between caches?
 
 > > > > Roman
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > >    On Friday, April 21, 2017 8:17 PM,
 Seliverstov Igor <
 
 > > > > gvvinbl...@gmail.com
 <javascript:;>> wrote:
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > >  Hi Roman,
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > As far as I inderstand you're the
 author of the Redis protocol
 
 > > > > implementation.
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > Currently I'm working on a task to
 prohibit null names for caches and
 
 > > > I've
 
 > > > > found that current implementation
 implies using of default (aka null
 
 > > > named)
 
 > > > > cache as a Redis database.
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > So, I need your assistance to implement
 Redis databases and mappings
 
 > > them
 
 > > > > to particular caches.
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > Is it in your plans to do it in near
 time?
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > If not I'll appriciate your thoughts
 on how to do it properly)
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > > Regards,
 
 > > > > Igor
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > >
 
 > > > >
 
 > > >
 
 > >
 
 > >
 
 > >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 > --
 
 > Alexey Kuznetsov
 
 >
 
 
 
    
 

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