Guys,

As discussed, pushed the branch being stabilized to ignite-5267 (and
created the corresponding ticket).

2017-05-21 6:48 GMT+03:00 Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:

> Sounds good to me.
>
> To keep all of you in the loop, eventually, the *IP clearance vote* has
> been initiated on @incubator-general. Here is the form:
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/persistent-
> distributed-store-ignite.html <http://incubator.apache.org/
> ip-clearance/persistent-distributed-store-ignite.html>
>
> —
> Denis
>
> > On May 19, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hm... I think I misunderstood the issue.
> >
> > In this case, since there is no disagreement, I would propose the
> following
> > steps then:
> >
> >   1. We should merge the code into a separate Ignite branch and start
> >   stabilizing it.
> >   2. Let's start the VOTE to accept the donation once the code is merged.
> >   As Raul suggested, let's keep the VOTE to accept the donation separate
> from
> >   any decision on what to do with the donation or when to release it.
> >   3. I am hoping that once the donation is accepted, all the discussions
> >   about the new code, moving it to Ignite standards, stabilizing it, and
> >   eventually releasing it should happen on the dev list, which should
> allow
> >   everyone in the community to familiarize themselves with it.
> >
> > Does this sound like an agreeable process to move forward?
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@boudnik.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dmitriy,
> >>
> >> no one has ever suggested to keep the code in a separate repository
> >> (once the grant issues were sorted out). Not sure where you get this
> >> impression. I don't think there's anything to argue about ;)
> >>
> >> Cos
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>  Take care,
> >> Konstantin (Cos) Boudnik
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
> >> <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> Cos, Roman,
> >>>
> >>> This has nothing to do with any deadlines, but rather with an easier
> and
> >>> more efficient process.
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure how keeping the code in a separate code base is better
> for
> >>> the community than keeping it in a separate Apache Ignite branch, where
> >> we
> >>> can integrate it into Ignite CI process, run tests, stabilize, all
> while
> >>> the community is getting familiar with it. Keeping the code base
> outside
> >> of
> >>> Apache Ignite GIT makes it much more difficult to integrate or
> stabilize.
> >>> Moreover, if the code is in a separate Ignite branch, we can get the
> >>> community help to work on it and discuss issues on the dev list.
> >>>
> >>> I would propose to move the code to a separate branch in Apache Ignite
> >>> right now, especially given that the paperwork has already been taken
> >> care
> >>> of. We can still decide within the Ignite community not to accept it
> down
> >>> the road, in which case we can toss away the branch.
> >>>
> >>> Would you agree with this approach?
> >>>
> >>> D.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Well, here's the issue with "simple move from private repo". This is
> a
> >>>>> huge chunk of code. And while employees of Gridgain are quite
> familiar
> >>>>> with it (or so I presume), the rest of the community is not. I, for
> >>>>> one, don't consider that the fact it has been tested and integrated
> >>>>> with AI 2.0 and, effectively, outside of AI 2.0 is a reasonable "go"
> >>>>> criteria.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cos is absolutely correct here. Strong +1 to the above.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am sorry that I have to repeat this after 1.5 years after project's
> >>>>> graduation from the Incubator. However, I, personally and otherwise,
> >>>>> feel like a community process of creating software should be thought
> >>>>> through in the spirit of the community, rather than "release dates"
> or
> >>>>> "feature richness". Which means that the community has to be on board
> >>>>> with the decisions like this. And "on board" doesn't mean "majority
> of
> >>>>> the votes" as we, fortunately, aren't playing in democracy @apache.
> >>>>> Release dates are relevant to an entity, building and selling
> >>>>> products. in Apache we're are working on projects, and while releases
> >>>>> are important here, they convey a very different meaning.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which brings me to a related question: what exactly needs to be
> released
> >>>> on this aggressive schedule and who is a beneficiary of this release?
> >>>>
> >>>> What I am trying to say is this: if GirdGain has a product delivery
> >>>> deadline -- the
> >>>> company can go ahead and release its product with whatever features it
> >>>> needs to.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I'm with Cos -- the community has to be given time to get
> >> comfortable
> >>>> with
> >>>> the code base if for nothing else but for licensing implications.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Roman.
> >>>>
> >>
>
>

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