Denis,

> BTW, who is considered to be the release manager of this release?
I'll do it.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Seliverstov Igor <gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok, the check happens at the node start time or on NODE_JOIN event
>
> in general it looks like:
>
> 1) calculate expected used memory = heap max + system cache max + all
> custom policies max + default policy size and put it into a node attribute
>
> 2) get total physycal memory, calculate expected safe to be used memory
> amount (leave 4 gb min or 20% of available memory for OS)
>
> 3) if expected used memory + expected used memory of other nodes on the
> host > than safe to be used memory amount, start calculating suggestions
>
> 4) Each ignite instance needs at least 512mb heap + 40mb system cache +
> 100mb default polycy, if available memory is less we cannot suggest
> anything reasonable, print warning, stop calculation.
>
> 5) check heap size (shouldn't exceed 30% of available memory (total_memory
> - reserved for OS memory) * 30% for all JVMs, if it exeedes, suggest just
> calculated value or 512MB minimal)
>
> 6) check if system cache size changed, suggest default value if it's so
>
> 7) in case 100 mb * policies count < available memory, suggest using
> default policy with max size equals to remaining memory (available - heap -
> system cache)
>
> 8) calculate new size for each memory policy ( it's user defined size *
> (remaining / (all_policies_size * nodes_cnt)); in proportion to
> remaining memory, devided by nodes number on the host or 100 mb minimal)
>
> 9) print suggestions
>
>
>
> 2017-08-28 15:10 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:
>
> > Igor, can you please describe the algorithm with all the thresholds?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Seliverstov Igor <gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The suggestion here is based on initial settings, and it's so because
> > there
> > > is no other nodes on the host in the example.
> > >
> > > The algorithm tries to preserve the original ratio of memory policies
> > > keeping numbers reasonable (for example after some thresshold it will
> > > suggest not to use several memory policies if there is not enough of
> > memory
> > > for all of them) and taking into consideration nodes count on the host,
> > > each jvm heap, needed memory for OS, etc
> > >
> > > 2017-08-28 14:38 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Looks good, but why in the example provided are we suggesting 8GB? 2
> > > nodes
> > > > with 8GB will completely exhaust the available memory. I would
> suggest
> > 6
> > > or
> > > > 7GB.
> > > >
> > > > Also, why 100MB for default policy. Anything under 1GB seems too
> small.
> > > >
> > > > Can you please comment?
> > > >
> > > > D.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Seliverstov Igor <
> > gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > One more example of possible warning:
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Excessive memory usage by Ignite node process (performance may
> drop)
> > > > > [requested=44613MB, available=15942MB].
> > > > >
> > > > > Please tune the folowing settings as suggested:
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.initialSize for bigPlc: 8102MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize     for bigPlc: 8102MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.initialSize for dfltPlc: 100MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize     for dfltPlc: 100MB
> > > > >
> > > > > Current settings:
> > > > >   Java Heap  maxSize: 3543MB
> > > > >   Java Heap initSize: 250MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.initialSize for bigPlc: 256MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize     for bigPlc: 40960MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.initialSize for dfltPlc: 10MB
> > > > >   MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize     for dfltPlc: 10MB
> > > > >   The overall expected memory usage by all Ignite nodes on the
> host:
> > > > > 44613MB
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Your thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2017-08-28 5:06 GMT+03:00 Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ML lib profile is missing in 2.1 release! That must be fixed and
> > > rolled
> > > > > > out in this emergency release:
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-6193 <
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-6193>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oleg, Yuri, please step in and handle the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, who is considered to be the release manager of this release?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > —
> > > > > > Denis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Aug 25, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the format proposed by Denis, very clear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, I also do not understand why a user should change the
> > size
> > > > of
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > system cache. How would a user ever know what value to put
> there?
> > > > This
> > > > > > > value should be configured by Ignite automatically.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Denis Magda <
> dma...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Igor,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Let me suggest this format.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >> Excessive memory usage by Ignite node process (performance may
> > > drop)
> > > > > > >> [requested=29251MB, available=15942MB]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Please tune the following settings:
> > > > > > >>  [MemoryConfiguration.defaultMemoryPolicySize = suggested
> > value]
> > > > > > >>  MemoryConfiguration.systemCacheMaxSize = suggested value
> > > > > > >>  [MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize for {policy_name_1} =
> > > suggested
> > > > > > >> value]
> > > > > > >>  [MemoryPolicyConfiguration.maxSize for {policy_name_2} =
> > > suggested
> > > > > > >> value]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Current settings:
> > > > > > >>   [DefaultMemoryPolicySize = value]
> > > > > > >>   [{policy_name_1} size = value]
> > > > > > >>   [{policy_name_1} size = value]
> > > > > > >>   SystemCacheInitialSize = value
> > > > > > >>   SystemCacheMaxSize = value
> > > > > > >>   Java Heap Init Size = value
> > > > > > >>   Java Heap Max Size = value
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The overall memory usage by all Ignite nodes on the host:
> value
> > > > > > >> -------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Records in […] are optional. If custom memory policy is not
> set
> > or
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> default memory policy is overridden the output will miss some
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > rows.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> As for systemCacheMaxSize, it should be show ONLY if the
> > parameter
> > > > was
> > > > > > set
> > > > > > >> explicitly by user code. Otherwise, the platform should be
> wise
> > > > enough
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> instantiate it properly depending on the host memory usage.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> —
> > > > > > >> Denis
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Seliverstov Igor <
> > > > gvvinbl...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The message without logging layout:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Not enough memory for current process [required=29251MB,
> > > > > > >> available=15942MB].
> > > > > > >>> Please change MemoryConfiguration.systemCacheMaxSize and
> > > > > > >>> MemoryConfiguration.defaultMemoryPolicySize to decrease
> memory
> > > > > > allocated
> > > > > > >>> for each node.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Current settings:
> > > > > > >>>  HeapInit=250MB
> > > > > > >>>  HeapMax=3543MB
> > > > > > >>>  DefaultMemoryPolicySize=12753MB
> > > > > > >>>  SystemCacheInitialSize=40MB
> > > > > > >>>  SystemCacheMaxSize=100MB
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Other ignite instanses on the server require: 12853MB
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I think it's make sense to describe what these numbers are
> > > consist
> > > > > of.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> We simple say which parameters have an impact on how much
> > memory
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> instance needs and their (parameters) actual values.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Also we notice that more than one Ignite instance are ran on
> > the
> > > > > server
> > > > > > >> or
> > > > > > >>> workstation and it also consumes memory.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> 25 авг. 2017 г. 21:30 пользователь "Dmitriy Setrakyan" <
> > > > > > >>> dsetrak...@apache.org> написал:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Igor, what is this flood of WARN messaging coming after the
> > > text?
> > > > > Are
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >>>> really going to print this whole thing out?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Seliverstov Igor <
> > > > > > gvvinbl...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> This message appears on topology change in case the
> available
> > > > > memory
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >>>>> exceeded
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 2017-08-25 19:47 GMT+03:00 Seliverstov Igor <
> > > > gvvinbl...@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> An example of current impl:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager] Not enough
> > > memory
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >>>>>> current process [required=29251MB, available=15942MB].
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager] Please
> change
> > > > > > >>>>>> MemoryConfiguration.systemCacheMaxSize and
> > > MemoryConfiguration.
> > > > > > >>>>> defaultMemoryPolicySize
> > > > > > >>>>>> to decrease memory allocated for each node.
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager] Current
> > > settings:
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,740][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > >  HeapInit=250MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > >  HeapMax=3543MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>> DefaultMemoryPolicySize=
> > > > > > >>>>>> 12753MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>>>> SystemCacheInitialSize=40MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>> SystemCacheMaxSize=100MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager] Other
> ignite
> > > > > > instanses
> > > > > > >>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>> the server require: 12853MB
> > > > > > >>>>>> [2017-08-25 19:44:37,741][WARN ][disco-event-worker-#29%
> > > > internal.
> > > > > > >>>>>> GridHomePathSelfTest0%][GridDiscoveryManager]
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> 2017-08-25 17:40 GMT+03:00 Sergey Kozlov <
> > > skoz...@gridgain.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I suppose we should not forget JVM heap size and suggest
> to
> > > > > reduce
> > > > > > >>>> both
> > > > > > >>>>>>> options
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > > > >>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Igor, I would change the message. How about this:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Required RAM size is larger than total physical memory
> > > > available
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >>>>> OS.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Please change MemoryConfiguration.WhichProperty and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> MemoryPolicyConfiguration.WhichProperty to decrease
> > memory
> > > > > > >>>>> allocated
> > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> each node.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, can we calculate what the memory size allocated
> for
> > > each
> > > > > > node
> > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> be? In that case we should suggest it.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> D.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Seliverstov Igor <
> > > > > > >>>>> gvvinbl...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What do you, guys think about next warning?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [2017-08-25 17:17:04,718][INFO
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ][test-runner-#1%internal.GridHomePathSelfTest%][
> > > GridHomePat
> > > > > > >>>>>>> hSelfTest0]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> System cache's MemoryPolicy size is configured to 40
> MB.
> > > Use
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> MemoryConfiguration.systemCacheMemorySize property to
> > > change
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> setting.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [2017-08-25 17:17:04,718][WARN
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ][test-runner-#1%internal.GridHomePathSelfTest%][
> > > GridHomePat
> > > > > > >>>>>>> hSelfTest0]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Required RAM size is larger than total physical
> memory
> > > > > > >>>> available
> > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> OS.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Check your configuration to avoid swap partition
> > usage.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Use MemoryConfiguration and
> MemoryPolicyConfiguration
> > to
> > > > > > >>>> change
> > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> settings.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Physical memory [required=16397MB,
> available=15942MB]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [2017-08-25 17:17:04,726][WARN
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ][test-runner-#1%internal.GridHomePathSelfTest%][
> > > GridHomePat
> > > > > > >>>>>>> hSelfTest0]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Peer class loading is enabled (disable it in production
> > for
> > > > > > >>>>>>> performance
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> deployment consistency reasons)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [2017-08-25 17:17:04,726][INFO
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ][test-runner-#1%internal.GridHomePathSelfTest%][
> > > GridHomePat
> > > > > > >>>>>>> hSelfTest0]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Configured caches [in 'sysMemPlc' memoryPolicy:
> > > > > > >>>>> ['ignite-sys-cache']]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [2017-08-25 17:17:04,731][INFO
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ][test-runner-#1%internal.GridHomePathSelfTest%][
> > > GridHomePat
> > > > > > >>>>>>> hSelfTest0]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 3-rd party licenses can be found at:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> /home/gvvinblade/projects/
> ignite/incubator-ignite/libs/
> > > > > licenses
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2017-08-25 13:26 GMT+03:00 Yakov Zhdanov <
> > > > yzhda...@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agree, let's release new version including tickets
> > > mentioned
> > > > > by
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Denis
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ivan.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --Yakov
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Sergey Kozlov
> > > > > > >>>>>>> GridGain Systems
> > > > > > >>>>>>> www.gridgain.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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