Pavel, The proposed solution won't work for PHP, Python, Node.js, but it will work for C++ and .NET, isn't it? We will just have to deploy C++/.NET code in closter (just as in Java).
Best Regards, Igor On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM Aleksandr Shapkin <lexw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Folks, > > > > I started to implement the ClusterGroup API. > > > > There are two tickets at the moment: > > - .NET thin client: introduce Cluster API [1] > > - .NET Thin Client: introduce ClusterGroup API [2] > > > > The first one introduces the cluster API and is merged to master. > > The second ticket is in progress and allows clients to query and filter > server nodes. > > > > [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11709 > > [2] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12385 > > чт, 21 нояб. 2019 г. в 12:48, Denis Garus <garus....@gmail.com>: > > > Hello, Sergey! > > > > > > >> 3. Ignite doesn't have roles/authorization functionality for now. > > > > > > I can't agree with you. > > > > We already have authorization functionality in Ignite and for a thin > client > > too [1]. > > > > But, compute support for a thin client requires some additional efforts > to > > get an appropriate SecurityContext on a remote node. > > > > The list of tasks allowed for subjects, including thin clients, is the > area > > of responsibility of GridSecurityProcessor [2]. > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.security.client.ThinClientPermissionCheckTest > > 2. > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.security.GridSecurityProcessor > > > > > > чт, 21 нояб. 2019 г. в 12:41, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>: > > > > > Good points, Sergey. > > > Maybe you are right, and Java-based compute without peer deployment is > a > > > good first step for thin clients. > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:32 PM Sergey Kozlov <skoz...@gridgain.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Pavel > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:30 AM Pavel Tupitsyn < > ptupit...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1. I believe that Cluster operations for Thin Client protocol are > > > already > > > > > in the works > > > > > by Alexandr Shapkin. Can't find the ticket though. > > > > > Alexandr, can you please confirm and attach the ticket number? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Proposed changes will work only for Java tasks that are already > > > > deployed > > > > > on server nodes. > > > > > This is mostly useless for other thin clients we have (Python, PHP, > > > .NET, > > > > > C++). > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't guess so. The task (execution) is a way to implement own > layer > > > for > > > > the thin client application. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should think of a way to make this useful for all clients. > > > > > For example, we may allow sending tasks in some scripting language > > like > > > > > Javascript. > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The arbitrary code execution from a remote client must be protected > > > > from malicious code. > > > > I don't know how it could be designed but without that we open the > hole > > > to > > > > kill cluster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sergey Kozlov < > skoz...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea is great. But I have some concerns that probably should > be > > > > taken > > > > > > into account for design: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. We need to have the ability to stop a task execution, smth > > like > > > > > > OP_COMPUTE_CANCEL_TASK operation (client to server) > > > > > > 2. What's about task execution timeout? It may help to the > > cluster > > > > > > survival for buggy tasks > > > > > > 3. Ignite doesn't have roles/authorization functionality for > > now. > > > > But > > > > > a > > > > > > task is the risky operation for cluster (for security > reasons). > > > > Could > > > > > we > > > > > > add for Ignite configuration new options: > > > > > > - Explicit turning on for compute task support for thin > > > protocol > > > > > > (disabled by default) for whole cluster > > > > > > - Explicit turning on for compute task support for a node > > > > > > - The list of task names (classes) allowed to execute by > thin > > > > > client. > > > > > > 4. Support the labeling for task that may help to investigate > > > issues > > > > > on > > > > > > cluster (the idea from IEP-34 [1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-34+Thin+client%3A+transactions+support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:58 AM Alex Plehanov < > > > > plehanov.a...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have plans to start implementation of Compute interface for > > > Ignite > > > > > thin > > > > > > > client and want to discuss features that should be implemented. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We already have Compute implementation for binary-rest clients > > > > > > > (GridClientCompute), which have the following functionality: > > > > > > > - Filtering cluster nodes (projection) for compute > > > > > > > - Executing task by the name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can implement this functionality in a thin client as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, we need some operation types to request a list of > > all > > > > > > > available nodes and probably node attributes (by a list of > > nodes). > > > > Node > > > > > > > attributes will be helpful if we will decide to implement > analog > > of > > > > > > > ClusterGroup#forAttribute or ClusterGroup#forePredicate methods > > in > > > > the > > > > > > thin > > > > > > > client. Perhaps they can be requested lazily. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the protocol point of view there will be two new > operations: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_CLUSTER_GET_NODES > > > > > > > Request: empty > > > > > > > Response: long topologyVersion, int minorTopologyVersion, int > > > > > nodesCount, > > > > > > > for each node set of node fields (UUID nodeId, Object or String > > > > > > > consistentId, long order, etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_CLUSTER_GET_NODE_ATTRIBUTES > > > > > > > Request: int nodesCount, for each node: UUID nodeId > > > > > > > Response: int nodesCount, for each node: int attributesCount, > for > > > > each > > > > > > node > > > > > > > attribute: String name, Object value > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To execute tasks we need something like these methods in the > > client > > > > > API: > > > > > > > Object execute(String task, Object arg) > > > > > > > Future<Object> executeAsync(String task, Object arg) > > > > > > > Object affinityExecute(String task, String cache, Object key, > > > Object > > > > > arg) > > > > > > > Future<Object> affinityExecuteAsync(String task, String cache, > > > Object > > > > > > key, > > > > > > > Object arg) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which can be mapped to protocol operations: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_COMPUTE_EXECUTE_TASK > > > > > > > Request: UUID nodeId, String taskName, Object arg > > > > > > > Response: Object result > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_COMPUTE_EXECUTE_TASK_AFFINITY > > > > > > > Request: String cacheName, Object key, String taskName, Object > > arg > > > > > > > Response: Object result > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second operation is needed because we sometimes can't > > calculate > > > > and > > > > > > > connect to affinity node on the client-side (affinity awareness > > can > > > > be > > > > > > > disabled, custom affinity function can be used or there can be > no > > > > > > > connection between client and affinity node), but we can make > > best > > > > > effort > > > > > > > to send request to target node if affinity awareness is > enabled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, on the server-side requests always processed > > > synchronously > > > > > and > > > > > > > responses are sent right after request was processed. To > execute > > > long > > > > > > tasks > > > > > > > async we should whether change this logic or introduce some > kind > > > > > two-way > > > > > > > communication between client and server (now only one-way > > requests > > > > from > > > > > > > client to server are allowed). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two-way communication can also be useful in the future if we > will > > > > send > > > > > > some > > > > > > > server-side generated events to clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of two-way communication there can be new operations > > > > > introduced: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_COMPUTE_EXECUTE_TASK (from client to server) > > > > > > > Request: UUID nodeId, String taskName, Object arg > > > > > > > Response: long taskId > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP_COMPUTE_TASK_FINISHED (from server to client) > > > > > > > Request: taskId, Object result > > > > > > > Response: empty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same for affinity requests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, we can implement not only execute task operation, but > some > > > > other > > > > > > > operations from IgniteCompute (broadcast, run, call), but it > will > > > be > > > > > > useful > > > > > > > only for java thin client. And even with java thin client we > > should > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > implement peer-class-loading for thin clients (this also > requires > > > > > two-way > > > > > > > client-server communication) or put classes with executed > > closures > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > server locally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about proposed protocol changes? > > > > > > > Do we need two-way requests between client and server? > > > > > > > Do we need support of compute methods other than "execute > task"? > > > > > > > What do you think about peer-class-loading for thin clients? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sergey Kozlov > > > > > > GridGain Systems > > > > > > www.gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sergey Kozlov > > > > GridGain Systems > > > > www.gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alex. >
