Hi Pavel,

We're thinking about the same in regards to the future of Ignite
documentation :) Artem and I had some kitchen talks recently and we'll
restart that activity. Ignite definitely deserves and requires next-gen
docs. Artem promised to share his thoughts soon.

Btw, check out How to write effective documentation for your open-source
projec <https://opensource.com/article/20/3/documentation>t article that I
found in one of my newsletters today. It feels like it can be used as a
reference by Igniters on some best practices.

Denis Magda


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:03 PM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org> wrote:

> I agree with Andrey.
>
> And I'd like to reopen the discussion on "moving docs from readme.io to
> git" [1] [2]
> Looks like we reached some agreement there but never moved on with the
> migration.
>
>
> [1]
>
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Move-documentation-from-readme-io-to-GitHub-pages-td16409.html
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7595
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:48 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Andrey,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Your second point made me recall
> several
> > occasions when only after a release of some public APIs we had a chance
> to
> > complete documentation and discovered the APIs' ineffectiveness and
> oddness
> > from the user usage perspective. But it was already late.
> >
> > Generally, if to move incrementally with documentation process changes,
> > "documentation readiness before the vote" should work as the first step
> for
> > us. There will be delays with the vote for sure because we have to get
> used
> > to this change, but over time we should get to the point when
> documentation
> > will be prepared upon overall task resolution. Andrey, Artem, do you
> agree
> > with that?
> >
> > Other community members, please share your thoughts. If we don't hear any
> > opposite opinions, then I would update our release procedures with this
> > change.
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 9:44 AM Andrey Gura <ag...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Denis,
> > >
> > > I agree with you.
> > >
> > > Also I think that we should move to process which will require
> > > documentation updates during work on issue/feature and will part of
> > > code review process. Such approach has some useful benefits:
> > >
> > > - Documentation readiness at the same time when fix/implementation is
> > > ready (remember, documentation is part of a product).
> > > - Work on documentation and review could discover incompleteness of a
> > > fix or a feature on earlier stage (It is usual situation when some
> > > aspects were just forgotten, but documentation writing could spotlight
> > > such things).
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:49 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > With the final 2.8 release steps checked out today by announcing the
> > > > version globally (congrats!), it's a proper time to consider and
> tweak
> > > our
> > > > release process, making completion of some phases more predictable
> and
> > > > aligned. I would like to dedicate this thread solely to changes
> related
> > > to
> > > > the documentation.
> > > >
> > > > If to do a recap, Ignite 2.8 announcement went out of sync with the
> > > > publication of binaries, Maven and other artifacts because our
> > technical
> > > > documentation was completed long after the vote had been closed.
> > > >
> > > > We can easily eliminate such glitches for future releases if agree to
> > > start
> > > > a vote only if Ignite docs are ready and can be published the same
> day
> > > with
> > > > other release artifacts. If the docs are completed and available
> > > > internally while the vote goes then we can work on a release blog
> post
> > > > (referring to docs details) and announce the release the same day
> when
> > > the
> > > > binaries/docs availability.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts? Let's change the process ensuring that the vote can be
> > started
> > > > only if technical documentation is ready to be released?
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Denis
> > >
> >
>

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