Hello, Slava.

Are you talking about this commit [1] (sorry for commit message it’s due to the 
Github issue)?

The message for this command for now

«Deactivation stopped. Deactivation clears in-memory caches (without 
persistence) including the system caches.» 

Is it clear enough?

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/4921fcf1fecbd8a1ab02099e09cc2adb0b3ff88a


> 24 марта 2020 г., в 13:02, Вячеслав Коптилин <slava.kopti...@gmail.com> 
> написал(а):
> 
> Hi Nikolay,
> 
>> 1. We should add —force flag to the command.sh deactivation command.
> I just checked and it seems that the deactivation command
> (control-utility.sh) already has a confirmation option.
> Perhaps, we need to clearly state the consequences of using this command
> with in-memory caches.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> вт, 24 мар. 2020 г. в 12:51, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>:
> 
>> Hello, Alexey.
>> 
>> I just repeat our agreement to be on the same page
>> 
>>> The confirmation should only present in the user-facing interfaces.
>> 
>> 1. We should add —force flag to the command.sh deactivation command.
>> 2. We should throw the exception if cluster has in-memory caches and
>> —force=false.
>> 3. We shouldn’t change Java API for deactivation.
>> 
>> Is it correct?
>> 
>>> The DROP TABLE command does not have a "yes I am sure" clause in it
>> 
>> I think it because the command itself has a «DROP» word in it’s name.
>> Which clearly explains what will happen on it’s execution.
>> 
>> On the opposite «deactivation» command doesn’t have any sign of
>> destructive operation.
>> That’s why we should warn user about it’s consequences.
>> 
>> 
>>> 24 марта 2020 г., в 12:38, Alexey Goncharuk <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com>
>> написал(а):
>>> 
>>> Igniters, Ivan, Nikolay,
>>> 
>>> I am strongly against adding confirmation flags to any kind of APIs,
>>> whether we change the deactivation behavior or not (even though I agree
>>> that it makes sense to fix the deactivation to not clean up the in-memory
>>> data). The confirmation should only present in the user-facing
>> interfaces.
>>> I cannot recall any software interface which has such a flag. None of the
>>> syscalls which delete files (a very destructive operation) have this
>> flag.
>>> The DROP TABLE command does not have a "yes I am sure" clause in it. As I
>>> already mentioned, when used programmatically, most users will likely
>>> simply pass 'true' as the new flag because they already know the
>> behavior.
>>> This is a clear sign of a bad design choice.
>>> 
>>> On top of that, given that it is our intention to change the behavior of
>>> deactivation to not loose the in-memory data, it does not make sense to
>> me
>>> to change the API.
>> 
>> 

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