> Yes, it can be done. However, I don't think that we will get an agreement on > that
Let’s give it a try and see what happens :) > 2 дек. 2020 г., в 17:23, Вячеслав Коптилин <slava.kopti...@gmail.com> > написал(а): > >> Can you start the vote? > Yes, it can be done. However, I don't think that we will get an agreement > on that (I just recall the previous discussion). > And so, we will not remove the MVCC code; on the other hand, nobody will > support it in the future. We already at this point. This is just my humble > opinion. > >> It's strange turning off here the whole MVCC tests just because something > in the master branch was broken when in the second thread > On one side, it looks weird, I agree. On the other hand, nobody cares about > that and wants to fix tests. This is a stalemate, I think. > > Thanks, > S. > > ср, 2 дек. 2020 г. в 16:47, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > >> Slava, >> >> Can you start the vote? >> >> It's strange turning off here the whole MVCC tests just because >> something in the master branch was broken when in the second thread >> Community decide to continue MVCC support. Let's start the vote and >> see what happens. >> >> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 16:39, Вячеслав Коптилин <slava.kopti...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> It will be even worse if our users will face NPE or things like that >> in >>> the basic MVCC scenarios just because we don’t tests it. >>> The feature is not production-ready, and I don't think it is used at all. >>> Moreover, MVCC Cache 7, 8, 8, MVCC PDS 1, 2, 4 are already broken >>> (execution timeouts, flaky test, etc) and I haven't seen anyone who would >>> like to fix this. >>> Why should we waste every contributor's time? IMHO, MVCC suites are >> useless >>> and everyone just pushes "re-run possible blockers" button and doesn't >> care >>> about MVCC tests at all. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> S. >>> >>> ср, 2 дек. 2020 г. в 16:01, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: >>> >>>>> I think test suites can be disabled even today >>>> >>>> I’m -1 to disable tests without complete removal. >>>> It will be even worse if our users will face NPE or things like that in >>>> the basic MVCC scenarios just because we don’t tests it. >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2 дек. 2020 г., в 15:50, Вячеслав Коптилин <slava.kopti...@gmail.com >>> >>>> написал(а): >>>>> >>>>> Hi Nikolay, >>>>> >>>>>> Why do we need feature in the project that not even tested >> regularly? >>>>> Fair enough. However, I am not an expert in this area (MVCC and >> SQL), so >>>> I >>>>> cannot say how much effort it will take. >>>>> I would say that the opinion of the rest of the community is needed >> here. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I think test suites can be disabled even today, while the >> fate of >>>>> the MVCC feature can be (and should be) discussed separately. >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> S. >>>>> >>>>> ср, 2 дек. 2020 г. в 15:38, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, Slava! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, this topic comes to the top from time to time :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> . I just want to save the time required for getting TCBot's visa >> and TC >>>>>> resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why do we need feature in the project that not even tested >> regularly? >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 дек. 2020 г., в 15:36, Вячеслав Коптилин < >> slava.kopti...@gmail.com> >>>>>> написал(а): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Nikolay, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 to vote for complete MVCC removal. >>>>>>> It has already been discussed here [1] and, unfortunately, I have >> not >>>>>> seen >>>>>>> an agreement on that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Mark-MVCC-with-IgniteExperimental-td45669.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> S. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ср, 2 дек. 2020 г. в 13:05, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 to vote for complete MVCC removal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MVCC is a great feature but we should implement it as a >> first-class >>>>>>>> feature and not «something that pretends to be working» >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2 дек. 2020 г., в 12:53, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> >>>>>> написал(а): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Slava, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think we should vote for MVCC termination of support. If the >> vote >>>>>>>>> will be successful than remove it from the source code and >> disable >>>>>>>>> MVCC suites. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only disabling tests from MVCC sounds not good. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 12:32, Вячеслав Коптилин < >>>>>> slava.kopti...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Igniters, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It looks like there is no activity related to maintaining or >>>>>> developing >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> MVCC feature. >>>>>>>>>> So, I see no reason to waste TeamCity resources. I propose to >>>> disable >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> corresponding test suites. >>>>>>>>>> This has already been discussed here as well [1]. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Mark-MVCC-with-IgniteExperimental-td45669.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> S. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>