Thanks everyone involved!

Nikolay, thanks for your support!

Kirill, the goal is to create a useful and powerful process instead of
formalism.

Nikita,
> Could you clarify how API deprecation and removal would be handled?
TBD, let's think about it.
Any proposals?

Aleksandr,
> do we have a clear definition of "Public APIs or their supported
behavior"?
TBD again.
My goal is to start this change and (maybe) lead it.
I don't know all the answers, let's start with some proposals.

Dmitry,
> I believe we need to more precisely specify which public API changes
require an IEP
Any. Not a joke. Any public, but the question of what is public is still a
question.
Start case is the disk and communications formats, public Ignite Java API
(not internal classes).
Feel free to add something.

Vladislav,
> Could we allow revisions to the existing IEP
Sure, common sense is our power.
> What makes an IEP ready for approval, and how do we determine that its
implementation is complete?
Same answer; let's start with common sense and see how it's going.
> Can we automatically flag or block PRs that change public APIs or
behavior requiring an IEP but have no linked IEP?
Hope to know how :)
Let's start with a simple statement and a simple document via the
Developer's Guide page, and take a look.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 2:53 PM Vladislav Pyatkov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>    1. Tying a vote to a specific version of an IEP makes sense. However,
>    requiring a new IEP for every correction or refinement seems excessive.
>    Could we allow revisions to the existing IEP, preserving the approved
>    version and putting substantial changes through another review and vote?
>    2. What makes an IEP ready for approval, and how do we determine that
>    its implementation is complete? Is a description of the functionality
> with
>    explicit completion criteria enough, or is an exhaustive list of linked
>    implementation tickets required?
>    3. How would we enforce this rule during code review? Can we
>    automatically flag or block PRs that change public APIs or behavior
>    requiring an IEP but have no linked IEP? Or would identifying such
> changes
>    remain entirely the reviewers’ responsibility?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 2:17 PM Dmitry Werner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > +1 overall.
> >
> > I believe we need to more precisely specify which public API changes
> > require an IEP (for example, adding metrics, modifying log messages,
> etc.)
> > so that the rules are unambiguous for everyone.
> >
> > Aleksandr's questions about log messages and internode messages are a
> good
> > illustration of why this clarification matters.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 3:37 PM Aleksandr Chesnokov <
> > [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > Adding to Kirill's questions: do we have a clear definition of "Public
> > > APIs or their supported behavior"? To be more specific:
> > >
> > > 1. Are log messages part of the public API? As far as I know, some
> users
> > > build grep scripts on top of Ignite logs.
> > >
> > > 2. Are internode messages part of the public API? Should we create an
> IEP
> > > for a change of the wire protocol (the order of fields in a message,
> for
> > > example)?
> > >
> > > As an example, Hadoop has an explicit compatibility guide [1] which
> > > declares audience (who may rely on it) and stability (how freely it may
> > > change) for each kind of interface. The two are separate: log output is
> > > "Public and Unstable" [2], server-server wire protocols are "Private
> and
> > > Stable" by default [3]. Maybe we can add a similar list to the
> proposal?
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/Compatibility.html
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/Compatibility.html#Log_Output
> > > [3]
> > >
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/Compatibility.html#Wire_Protocols
> >
>
>
> --
> Vladislav Pyatkov
>

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