My ideal and more conservative policy would be:
- If conflicts, review.
- Always GVO.

Dimitris

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Taras Bobrovytsky <taras...@apache.org>
wrote:

> I like your policy suggestion. If there are no conflicts, then we can push
> from master to 2.x without any tests or reviews. If there are conflicts,
> then a review AND a GVO test run are required.
>
> We can at least start off with this policy and then change it if it is not
> working well for some reason.
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Philip Zeyliger <phi...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > An update here!
> >
> > I'm pretty close to pushing the first master-only change (the very
> exciting
> > 1-liner at https://gerrit.cloudera.org/#/c/9044/ that bumps versions).
> > After that, I'll be cherrypicking things into 2.x.
> >
> > We need a policy, I think, on reviewing these cherry-picks. The most
> > heavy-weight would be to do Gerrit and run-tests-before-merge for every
> > change. The least heavy would be to review only when the cherry-picks
> > aren't clean. Are people comfortable with the less heavy policy?
> >
> > Specifically, I propose that clean cherrypicks from master to 2.x can be
> > pushed without additional review.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Philip
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Philip Zeyliger <phi...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds like we've reached consensus, so I'm starting to maneuver
> this
> > > along. Please don't hesitate if you've got concerns. You can follow
> along
> > > at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-6410.
> > >
> > > The first two reviews are out at:
> > >
> > > remote:   http://gerrit.cloudera.org:8080/9044 Bumping version to 3.0.
> > > remote:   http://gerrit.cloudera.org:8080/9045 IMPALA-6410: Tool to
> > > cherrypick changes across branches.
> > >
> > > I've created the branches on Gerrit and Apache as follows:
> > >
> > > # This created the branch on gerrit.cloudera.org
> > > $ssh -p 29418 ph...@gerrit.cloudera.org gerrit create-branch
> Impala-ASF
> > > 2.x master
> > >
> > > # This created the branch on the Apache git server:
> > > $git push apache asf-gerrit/2.x:refs/heads/2.x
> > > Username for 'https://git-wip-us.apache.org': philz
> > > Password for 'https://ph...@git-wip-us.apache.org':
> > > Total 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
> > > To https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/impala.git
> > >  * [new branch]      asf-gerrit/2.x -> 2.x
> > >
> > > # Double-check:
> > > $git-ls-remote apache | grep 2.x; git-ls-remote asf-gerrit | grep 2.x
> > > 6cc76d72016b8d5672676e8e8a979b0807803ad9        refs/heads/2.x
> > > 6cc76d72016b8d5672676e8e8a979b0807803ad9        refs/heads/2.x
> > >
> > > # push_to_asf learned of the branch "magically"
> > > $bin/push_to_asf.py
> > > INFO:root:Fetching from remote 'asf-gerrit'...
> > > INFO:root:done
> > > Branch '2.x':    up to date
> > > Branch 'asf-site':       up to date
> > > Branch 'branch-2.10.0':  found on Apache but not in gerrit
> > > Branch 'branch-2.11.0':  found on Apache but not in gerrit
> > > Branch 'branch-2.7.0':   found on Apache but not in gerrit
> > > Branch 'branch-2.8.0':   found on Apache but not in gerrit
> > > Branch 'branch-2.9.0':   found on Apache but not in gerrit
> > > Branch 'hadoop-next':    up to date
> > > Branch 'master':         up to date
> > >
> > > -- Philip
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Alexander Behm <
> alex.b...@cloudera.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Taras Bobrovytsky <
> taras...@apache.org
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > +1
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Lars Volker <l...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > +1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Zeyliger <
> > phi...@cloudera.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi folks!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > It sounds like there haven't been objections to having master be
> > >> "3.0"
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > introducing a 2.x branch. Would folks be alright if I started
> > making
> > >> > > > changes in that direction?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -- Philip
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Philip Zeyliger <
> > >> phi...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Jim Apple <
> > jbap...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> This makes sense to me.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> In this mode, for 2.x-only changes and for changes on 3.0
> that
> > >> don't
> > >> > > > >> apply cleanly, there will be a manual way to do the step
> > labelled
> > >> > "1.
> > >> > > > >> Cherrypick tool", and that way is the same way we send
> patches
> > >> for
> > >> > > > >> review now, but pushing to HEAD:refs/for/2.x rather than
> > >> > > > >> HEAD:refs/for/master, yes?
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Exactly. So, non-clean cherrypicks or 2.x-only changes go
> > through
> > >> > > review
> > >> > > > > on Gerrit, but we give an implicit review pass to clean
> > >> cherrypicks.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > We could have the cherrypick tool between gerrit/master and
> > >> > gerrit/2.x
> > >> > > do
> > >> > > > > the cherrypicks and run the tests on Jenkins. Do you think
> > that's
> > >> > > > > preferable?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > -- Philip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Philip Zeyliger <
> > >> > phi...@cloudera.com
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > Picture:
> > >> > > > >> > https://gist.github.com/philz/
> 323c8b4cb411dc12eb7231d922c195
> > >> > > > >> 1f#file-impala-branch-image-pdf
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Jim Apple <
> > >> jbap...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> Often, this list seems to filter out images. Could you
> post
> > it
> > >> > and
> > >> > > > >> send a
> > >> > > > >> >> link?
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> Thanks for taking this on, Phil!
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Philip Zeyliger <
> > >> > > > phi...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> > I think most patches go to Gerrit branch 'master', which
> > >> > happens
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > >> >> > identify itself as 3.0. (Or 3.x?).
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > Here's a picture:
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > [image: Inline image 1]
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > With this, every time "cherrypick_and_push_to_asf.py"
> is
> > >> run,
> > >> > it
> > >> > > > >> would
> > >> > > > >> >> > first offer to cherrypick changes between master and
> 2.x.
> > >> Then,
> > >> > > it
> > >> > > > >> would
> > >> > > > >> >> > offer push those cherrypicks to gerrit/2.x. After that,
> it
> > >> > > > continues
> > >> > > > >> on
> > >> > > > >> >> as
> > >> > > > >> >> > before and offers to push changes to ASF. I think this
> > >> > maintains
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > >> >> > invariant that pushing to ASF is only done with a human
> > >> > trigger.
> > >> > > > (We
> > >> > > > >> >> could
> > >> > > > >> >> > also have step 1 be done by a Jenkins robot, since it's
> > >> between
> > >> > > > >> Gerrit
> > >> > > > >> >> and
> > >> > > > >> >> > Gerrit.)
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > I looked at the How to Release page, and the main
> > difference
> > >> > > would
> > >> > > > be
> > >> > > > >> >> > that, for a 2.x release, the $COMMIT_HASH_YOU_CHOSE
> would
> > >> come
> > >> > > from
> > >> > > > >> the
> > >> > > > >> >> 2.x
> > >> > > > >> >> > branch, as would any cherrypicks.
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > Does this match what you're thinking?
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > Thanks!
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > -- Philip
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Jim Apple <
> > >> > > jbap...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> Which gerrit branch were you thinking most patches
> would
> > go
> > >> > to?
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> If they go to 3.0, then push_to_asf.py would have to be
> > >> > amended
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > >> >> >> push to gerrit, bypassing code review. I think that's
> > >> > possible,
> > >> > > > but
> > >> > > > >> >> >> I'm not 100%.
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> There is also security to think about, since the
> > >> > push_to_asf.py
> > >> > > > >> users
> > >> > > > >> >> >> can push a few commits at a time, including ones they
> > >> didn't
> > >> > > > author
> > >> > > > >> or
> > >> > > > >> >> >> review.
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> We'll also want to clarify
> > >> > > > >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/IMPALA/How+
> > >> > > to+Release
> > >> > > > >> and
> > >> > > > >> >> >> keep it consistent with the git & gerrit statuses quo.
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Philip Zeyliger <
> > >> > > > >> phi...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > Hi!
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> Should we start tagging all candidates with a common
> > >> label,
> > >> > > > e.g.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > include-in-v3?
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > I agree with Lars's suggestion for tagging JIRAs with
> > >> > > > >> include-in-v3.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> I've
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > done so, and the relevant query is
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/
> > jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%
> > >> > 20in
> > >> > > > >> >> >> clude-in-v3%20and%20project%3Dimpala
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > .
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> What sort of process were you thinking of for the
> > >> > automation?
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > I think amending push_to_asf.py, as you suggest, is a
> > >> great
> > >> > > > idea.
> > >> > > > >> I
> > >> > > > >> >> >> think
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > we have a string ("not for 2.x") which can be used in
> > >> commit
> > >> > > > >> messages
> > >> > > > >> >> to
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > discourage the cherrypick for the changes we want to
> be
> > >> > > > exclusive
> > >> > > > >> >> until
> > >> > > > >> >> >> we
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > want to change the defaults in the other direction.
> > >> (I.e.,
> > >> > > right
> > >> > > > >> now
> > >> > > > >> >> the
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > string is "not for 2.x", but at some point the string
> > >> may be
> > >> > > > >> "should
> > >> > > > >> >> be
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > cherrypicked to 2.x".)
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > I do think that we want to create a gerrit branch to
> > >> allow
> > >> > > > >> 2.x-only
> > >> > > > >> >> >> changes
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > to be reviewed in the straight-forward fashion.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > -- Philip
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Jim Apple <
> > >> > > > jbap...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> I'm on-board with all of this. (I also would be OK
> > >> delaying
> > >> > > > 3.0,
> > >> > > > >> if
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> that were the consensus).
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> There is one issue in here I think we should dive
> > into:
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> > Both master and 2.x would be active, and, at least
> > for
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > >> >> beginning,
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> > changes would automatically be pulled into the 2.x
> > >> line,
> > >> > > > unless
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> explicitly
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> > blacklisted.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> What sort of process were you thinking of for the
> > >> > automation?
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> Some context, starting from what we all likely
> already
> > >> > know:
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> The bulk of the code review and pre-merge testing
> > >> results
> > >> > are
> > >> > > > >> >> recorded
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> in gerrit. Once the pre-merge testing passes, a
> patch
> > is
> > >> > > > >> >> cherry-picked
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> to the git repo hosted with gerrit. To get the patch
> > to
> > >> the
> > >> > > > >> Impala
> > >> > > > >> >> git
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> repo hosted by the ASF, bin/push_to_asf.py is run
> by a
> > >> > human
> > >> > > > who
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> supplies his or her ASF credentials. That script
> > copies
> > >> the
> > >> > > > >> commit to
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> the ASF git repo.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> Often, 2-3 commits will pile up in gerrit before
> some
> > >> > > committer
> > >> > > > >> runs
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> that script and pushes them to ASF.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> We could edit that script (bin/push_to_asf.py) to
> help
> > >> with
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > >> >> cherry
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> picks, so that each time a commit is made, the
> > committer
> > >> > must
> > >> > > > say
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> whether the commit goes in 2.x, 3.0, or both, but
> the
> > >> > commits
> > >> > > > are
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> often made by people who didn't author the patches,
> so
> > >> they
> > >> > > may
> > >> > > > >> not
> > >> > > > >> >> be
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> sure which branch to go in.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> Additionally, gerrit code review is intimately tied
> to
> > >> the
> > >> > > git
> > >> > > > >> repo.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> Gerrit runs a git repo under-the-hood, and I believe
> > >> that
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > >> branch
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> on gerrit's git that changes are cherry-picked to
> > after
> > >> > > > pre-merge
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> testing is identical to the Impala git repo hosted
> by
> > >> the
> > >> > > ASF -
> > >> > > > >> down
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> to the hashes, even. If we think 2.x and 3.0 will
> > >> diverge
> > >> > > > enough
> > >> > > > >> that
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> we'll want different code reviews for different
> > >> branches,
> > >> > > then
> > >> > > > we
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >> might want two different branches on gerrit, too.
> > >> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
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