Hi Trevor,

Will different values of the same timestamp be the same?

1. Same
Time, Value
1, 1
1, 1
1, 1

2. Different
Time, Value
1, 1
1, 2
1, 1


Jialin Qiao

Trevor Hart <tre...@ope.nz> 于2024年5月14日周二 11:20写道:
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> Thank you! I will implment some work around for now.
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> I would appreciate some consideration for this option in the future.
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> Thanks
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> ---- On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:17:47 +1200 Xiangdong Huang <saint...@gmail.com> 
> wrote ---
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> > 1. Checking before insert if the timestamp already exists and remedy on the 
> > client before resend
> > 2. Moving to Nanosecond and introducing some insignificant time value to 
> > keep timestamp values unique.
> Yes these maybe the best solutions for a specific application.
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> Analysis for IoTDB:
> - Rejecting the write when receiving an existing timestamp in IoTDB is
> time-costly (IoTDB needs to check historical data). I think we will do
> not check it until we find a low-latency method.
> - Allowing multiple value versions for a timestamp may introduce a
> chain reaction and there may be a lot of codes that should be
> modified, which is a huge work.
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> There is a new idea (but I have no time to implement it...)
> - Add a parameter in IoTDB: replace_strategy: first, last, avg etc...
> - when an existing timestamp arrives, IoTDB accepts it
> - when IoTDB runs LSM to merge data and meets multiple values for a
> timestamp, then handles it according to the replace_startegy.
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> The solution may also introduce some work to do... and we need to
> think carefully the impact to the query process.
> Need to survey whether this is a common requirement.
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> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
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> Trevor Hart <mailto:tre...@ope.nz> 于2024年5月14日周二 09:55写道:
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> > Hello Yuan
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> >
> >
> > Correct, the first timestamp and values should be retained.
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> >
> >
> > I realise this is does not align with the current design. I was just asking 
> > whether there was an existing option to operate to block duplicates.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a normal RDBMS if you try to insert with a duplicate the insert will 
> > fail with a PK violation. It would be great in some circumstances if IotDB 
> > at least had the option to fail this way.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am considering some options such as;
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Checking before insert if the timestamp already exists and remedy on the 
> > client before resend
> >
> > 2. Moving to Nanosecond and introducing some insignificant time value to 
> > keep timestamp values unique.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have already done something similar to #2 with storing IIS web log files 
> > as they are recorded in seconds and not milliseconds.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Trevor Hart
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Tue, 14 May 2024 13:29:02 +1200 Yuan Tian 
> > <mailto:jackietie...@gmail.com> wrote ---
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> >
> > Hi Trevor,
> >
> > By "rejects duplicates", you mean you want to keep the first duplicate
> > timestamp and its corresponding values?(because the following duplicated
> > ones will be rejected)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --------------------
> > Yuan Tian
> >
> > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 6:24 PM Trevor Hart <mailto:mailto:tre...@ope.nz> 
> > wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             Correct. I’m not disputing that. What I’m asking is that it
> > > would be good to have a configuration that either allows overwrites or
> > > rejects duplicates.My scenario is request log data from a server (the
> > > device). As it may be processing multiple requests at once there is a
> > > chance that there could be colliding time stamps.As it stands now I would
> > > need to check if the timestamp exists before inserting the data. Which
> > > obviously affects throughput. Thanks Trevor Hart    ---- On Fri, 10 May
> > > 2024 00:33:40 +1200  Jialin Qiao<mailto:mailto:qiaojia...@apache.org> 
> > > wrote ---- Hi,
> > > In IoT or IIoT scenarios, we thought each data point represent a metric of
> > > a timestamp.In which case you need to store duplicated values?  Take this
> > > for an example: Time, root.sg1.car1.speed 1, 1 1, 2  Could a car has
> > > different speed at time 1?   Jialin Qiao  Yuan Tian <
> > > mailto:mailto:jackietie...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月9日周四 18:51写道: > > Hi 
> > > Trevor, > > Now we
> > > will override the duplicate timestamp with a newer one. There is > nothing
> > > we can do about it now. > > Best regards, > ------------------- > Yuan 
> > > Tian
> > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 5:31 PM Trevor Hart 
> > > > > <mailto:mailto:tre...@ope.nz> wrote: > >
> > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I’m aware that when inserting a duplicate 
> > > > timestamp
> > > the values will be > > overwritten. This will obviously result in data
> > > loss. > > > > > > > > Is there a config/setting to reject or throw an 
> > > error
> > > on duplicate > > inserts? Although highly unlikely I would prefer to be
> > > alerted to the > > situation rather than lose data. > > > > > > > > I read
> > > through the documentation but couldn’t find anything. > > > > > > > >
> > > Thanks > > > > Trevor Hart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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