On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25 May 2012 10:31, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Actuallly, the page http://wiki.apache.org/jmeter/JMeterPerformancereturns
> > a http 500 error (others pages works)
>
> Works for me at present.
>

Ok for me too.




>
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> >
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> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:27 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 24 May 2012 22:15, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > How can I insert image ? button is disabled in GUI mode.
> >> > To insert Test Plan, is it an attachment ?
> >>
> >> Try clicking "Attachments" before starting the edit.
> >>
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Regards
> >> > Philippe
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 22 May 2012 20:18, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello Milamber,
> >> >> > My responses below.
> >> >> > Regards
> >> >> > Philippe
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Milamber <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Le 21/05/2012 22:12, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
> >> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> > I read recently this little comparison :
> >> >> >> > https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmarks<
> >> >> >> https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmark>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I reviewed the test plan that was used to make the test.
> >> >> >> > It seems to me the test is little biased:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    - View Results Tree is in test plan (as it uses a lot of
> memory,
> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >    big issue)
> >> >> >> >    - View Results in Table (same thing)
> >> >> >> >    - 3 Non Standard JMeter listener, so It's not pure JMeter:
> >> >> >> >       - jp@gc - Transactions per Second
> >> >> >> >       - jp@gc - Response Times Over Time
> >> >> >> >       - jp@gc - Active Threads Over Time
> >> >> >> >    - Default XML output seems to have been used , it's against
> best
> >> >> >> >    practices
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Besides the following conclusions that seem to me non scientific
> >> and
> >> >> >> purely
> >> >> >> > subjective:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    - The testers, new to both Gatling and JMeter found that
> JMeter
> >> was
> >> >> >> >    harder to learn and use than Gatling to create the
> simulations,
> >> >> >> despite the
> >> >> >> >    use of a proxy.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I will only look at other ideas expressed:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    - JMeter creates one thread per user simulated. If there is
> not
> >> >> enough
> >> >> >> >    memory allocated to the JVM, it can crash trying to create
> these
> >> >> >> threads
> >> >> >> >       - This need to be detailed, cause either it fails with OOM
> >> and
> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> >       not during thread creation, either it fails with "unable
> to
> >> >> create
> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >       native thread"
> >> >> >> >    - For instance, JMeter could not run 1500 users with 512 MB
> >> (what
> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >    used for Gatling even with 2000 users); OutOfMemoryErrors are
> >> >> >> recorded in
> >> >> >> >    the table as *OOM*
> >> >> >> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m
> without
> >> >> any
> >> >> >> >       crash, it depends on Test and on application
> >> >> >> >    - Another problem occurred with the 2000 users simulations;
> it
> >> >> seems
> >> >> >> >    that JMeter can not simulate more than 1514 users
> independently
> >> >> from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >    memory that was allocated to the JVM
> >> >> >> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m
> without
> >> >> any
> >> >> >> >       crash, so assertion is false, it depends on Test and on
> >> >> application
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > As it's difficult to install the application used for test (last
> >> >> version
> >> >> >> > does not seem to work as expected) , if they provide a working
> WAR
> >> >> >> against
> >> >> >> > a local Postgres DB I will be happy to test with it.
> >> >> >> > But in current state, application seems to be packaged for cloud
> >> or H2
> >> >> >> > local DB, I didn't want to spend too much time setting up
> >> application
> >> >> as
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> > don't know its real status.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I just tried to run Test Plan against a blank tomcat to verify
> what
> >> >> they
> >> >> >> > say about Thread Creation, I didn't find any issue on this.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So I decided to make a very simple scenario test on Tomcat
> Examples
> >> >> (It
> >> >> >> > goes to Session Example, adds attribute, go back to index, go
> back
> >> to
> >> >> >> > Session Example, test contains Response assertion for each
> >> Request).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please, indicate the Tomcat version used? it's the same machine?
> >> config
> >> >> >> of tomcat server? tuning of JVM for Tomcat? OS? OS tuning? JVM
> >> editor?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tomcat apache-tomcat-6.0.24
> >> >> > -Xms256m -Xmx1024m
> >> >> >    <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> compressableMimeType="text/html,text/xml,text/plain,text/javascript,application/json"
> >> >> >                compression="off"
> >> >> >                socketBuffer="8"
> >> >> >                maxThreads="400"
> >> >> >               connectionTimeout="20000"
> >> >> >               redirectPort="8443" />
> >> >> > Set session timeout in web.xml  to 1min
> >> >> > java version "1.6.0_29"
> >> >> > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-10M3527)
> >> >> > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mac OS 10.6.8
> >> >> > JMeter  and Tomcat on same machine
> >> >> > No particular OS Tuning
> >> >> > 8GO RAM
> >> >> > No swap, nothing runnning except these 2
> >> >> > Tomcat CPU around 5%
> >> >> > Memory around 50 mo
> >> >> >
> >> >> > JVM editor/version for your JMeter? OS? OS Tuning (TCP tuning?)?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Same config
> >> >> > No TCP tuning
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Can you post the jmx file?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Will it be accepted on this list ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Best to create a Wiki page and attach the test file there.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Milamber
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > It is not at all representative but it is a way for me to check
> >> >> potential
> >> >> >> > issues in JMeter and performance changes accross versions.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I ran the test with 1500 VU using JMeter 2.5.1,  2.7 (current
> >> trunk)
> >> >> with
> >> >> >> > -Xmx512m, 10 minutes run and CSV output against a local Tomcat
> (I
> >> >> restard
> >> >> >> > tomcat between tests and control its health):
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    - I noticed that current trunk version behaves much better in
> >> >> terms of
> >> >> >> >    memory than 2.5.1 or 2.6:
> >> >> >> >       - In 2.5.1 :
> >> >> >> >       - GC activity is much higher with around 5 GC CPU peaks
> >> every 2
> >> >> >> >          minutes,  and 20 FULL GC of 700 to 800 ms each
> >> >> >> >          - Throughput: 97,71%
> >> >> >> >          - Pauses : 13,69s
> >> >> >> >          - Mém : 391M/min
> >> >> >> >          - Full GC tend to be much more frequent at end of test
> >> >> >> >          - 2.7:
> >> >> >> >          -  no GC CPU peak, 1 FULL GC
> >> >> >> >          - Throughput:98.54
> >> >> >> >          - Pauses : 8.9s
> >> >> >> >          - 1108m /min
> >> >> >> >          - Summary:
> >> >> >> >       - 25.1:
> >> >> >> >          - 164676 samples in 605,1s
> >> >> >> >          - 272,2/s
> >> >> >> >          - Avg:    97
> >> >> >> >          - 2.7:
> >> >> >> >          - 165367 in 605.0s
> >> >> >> >          - 273.3/s
> >> >> >> >          - Avg:   228
> >> >> >> >          - I also noticed results have a much better look:
> >> >> >> >       - in 2.5.1, Transactions/s are around 300 / sec during 4
> >> >> minutes,
> >> >> >> >       then drop to 200/s, go up to 400/s , then down to 260/s
> and
> >> >> >> > finally 200/sec
> >> >> >> >       - in 2.7, Transactions stay around 300/sec
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Actions:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    - I think it would be useful to have some reference
> application
> >> on
> >> >> >> which
> >> >> >> >    we could test JMeter behaviour
> >> >> >> >    - What would the best place to put these comparisons ? wiki ?
> >> which
> >> >> >> >    indicators should we put ?
> >> >> >> >    - Further testing should be done against a richer application
> >> that
> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> >    be deployed locally
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Regards
> >> >> >> > Philippe
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Cordialement.
> >> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cordialement.
> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >>
>

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