On 10/11/2017 15:07, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
If we look at consensus, we have:

    - 3 (+1) to remove it (Maxime, Antonio and me) with favor to move the
    elements inside Test plan as disabled (so backward compat). If we have a PR
    or patch that does that, I'll merge it after testing as much as possible.
    - 1 (-1) or (0) for sebb, do you agree sebb ? what would be your exact
    position ?


@Felix, @Milamber, @Vladimir,@Graham, @Mikhail , any thoughts on this ?

-0 for me.




Thanks

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't see any point for Workbench to exist. Simply disabling elements
in-place makes them temporary stored anywhere in test plan.

Do we have a decision to remote it or not? I don't want to spend
resources if we don't have consensus.

Andrey Pokhilko

09.11.2017 13:41, sebb пишет:
Why not consider how to make the Workbench more intuitive and useful?

On 8 November 2017 at 16:47, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected]> wrote:
As you say, it’s oddity.
A tool should be intuitive, this part is not, we cannot always say,
rtfm.
You know that lot of people don’t read docs.

Let’s try and see if it is that complex.

We shouldn’t say , we cannot touch, JMeter is not legacy, so we touch ,
break then fix .

Regards

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:

On 8 November 2017 at 16:18, Philippe Mouawad
<[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hello,
I’d say Test Plan.
I suggest testcompiler ignores them
That would involve a lot of testing to ensure nothing broke.

Are you sure it's worth it?

There have been other instances where what seems to be a minor change
turns out to be far more intrusive than first expected.
Dropping Workbench seems like such a case to me; it's been part of
JMeter for so long that there are bound to be lots of places that
assume it is present.

I agree that the Workbench is a bit of an oddity, but I think removing
it is going to prove much more of a headache than improving the
documentation to explain it better.
And potentially find more uses for it.

Regards

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017, Artem Fedorov <
[email protected] <javascript:;>>
wrote:

Hello,

If we dropped WorkBench, in which element we can add Non-Test
Elements
(HTTP Mirror Server, HTTP(S) Test Script Recorder, Property Display)?
Can we add these Non-Test Elements to Test Plan (root) or Test
Fragment?
Thanks

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On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Philippe Mouawad <
[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
wrote:
Great !

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <[email protected]
<javascript:;>
<javascript:;>> wrote:
FYI BlazeMeter will attempt to implement this change and contribute
it.
Andrey Pokhilko

04.11.2017 17:06, Andrey Pokhilko пишет:
I'll need to think about it.

Andrey Pokhilko

04.11.2017 17:01, Philippe Mouawad пишет:
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <[email protected]
<javascript:;>
<javascript:;>> wrote:
+1 from me, I think it is possible to automatically move
elements
from
loaded test plans.

Do you have some time to contribute a patch for this if you think
it's
needed ?

Andrey Pokhilko

04.11.2017 15:18, Maxime Chassagneux пишет:
Hi,

I never use it, except for recording script, so +1 for me.

Regards

2017-11-04 13:07 GMT+01:00 Philippe Mouawad <
[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
:

Hello,
Workbench element is confusing for beginners who don't
understand
clearly its use.

Thinking more about it, I don't see today why we should still
keep
it.
The only advantage of this element is Non Test Elements which
would
be made available from Test Plan directly.
When running a test those element would not impact test plan.

The only issue is backward compatibility, should we try to
move
elements in
workbench under test plan or just mention a backward
incompatibility.
Users would manually move there elements to Test Plan.

Regards

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