On 5/22/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
With the
compiler enabled and fully compiling, we are faster than MRI
Ha, but of course. With a compiler you just about eliminate that other
abstraction layer, or pay the price for it upfront, in compilation.
Anyway, this all is hand-waving around the fact that it's optimized to
the point where regular profiling doesn't help a lot. I understand,
that you understand, that I understand :)

At this point, it's all about guessing, reducing to very small chunks
of code in a huge number of iterations, stubbing things out and
measuring the difference. And then somebody comes in with a whole new
bytecode engine, and all these small optimizations just become
irrelevant...

The truth is that we're at a point of optimization where typical Java
profiling isn't telling us the whole story.
So it seems.

Anyway, profiling and debugging are good ways to get familiar with the
guts of any software, so it wasn't a waste of time for me today.

By the way, as I wrote to Ola, anyone who undertakes a project of this
magnitude and complexity in their spare time is CRAZY. After a peek
inside, I'm saying this with all the admiration to you, guys, that
ASCII can express.

Have faith :)
Amen.

--
Alex

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