The current proposal says that replication throughput would change not to
include reassignment though.

Ismael

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 11:53 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Ismael,
>
> I think every replica is doing replication, by definition.  But not every
> replica is undergoing reassignment.
>
> If the broker that died was in the set of new replicas being added, its
> death will not add a new under-replicated partition.  Otherwise, it will
> add a new URP.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, at 11:26, Ismael Juma wrote:
> > If a broker dies and loses the disk, is it replication or reassignment?
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:30 AM Viktor Somogyi-Vass <
> viktorsomo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > During the code review it came up that we shouldn't count replication
> bytes
> > > together with reassignment bytes so they count to a different metrics.
> This
> > > is a change in the semantics of ReplicationBytesInPerSec and
> > > ReplicationBytesOutPerSec metrics but since we plan to separate
> > > reassignment from replication in terms of throttling, it makes sense to
> > > record metrics separately as well.
> > > If there are no objections we'll proceed with this interpretation but I
> > > wanted to send a shoutout here as well.
> > >
> > > Also the ReassignmentMaxLag will go in a different JIRA as it requires
> more
> > > discussion.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Viktor
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:30 PM Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Closing this vote. The final result is +9 with 4 binding votes.
> > > >
> > > > @Satish Sorry, I missed your question above. Good point about
> updating
> > > > documentation. I will create a separate jira to make sure this gets
> done.
> > > >
> > > > -Jason
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:23 AM Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Stan, good catch. I have updated the KIP. I will plan to
> close
> > > the
> > > > > vote Monday if there are no objections.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jason
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:14 AM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, at 11:08, Stanislav Kozlovski wrote:
> > > > >> > Thanks for the KIP, this is very helpful
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I had an offline discussion with Jason and we discussed the
> > > semantics
> > > > of
> > > > >> > the underMinIsr/atMinIsr metrics. The current proposal would
> expose
> > > a
> > > > >> gap
> > > > >> > where we could report URP but no MinIsr.
> > > > >> > A brief example:
> > > > >> > original replica set = [0,1,2]
> > > > >> > new replica set = [3,4,5]
> > > > >> > isr = [0, 3, 4]
> > > > >> > config.minIsr = 3
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > As the KIP said
> > > > >> > > In other words, we will subtract the AddingReplica from both
> the
> > > > total
> > > > >> > replicas and the current ISR when determining URP satisfaction.
> > > > >> > We would report URP=2 (1 and 2 are not in ISR) but not
> underMinIsr,
> > > as
> > > > >> we
> > > > >> > have an ISR of 3.
> > > > >> > Technically, any produce requests with acks=all would succeed,
> so it
> > > > >> would
> > > > >> > be false to report `underMinIsr`. We thought it'd be good to
> keep
> > > both
> > > > >> > metrics consistent, so a new proposal is to use the following
> > > > algorithm:
> > > > >> > ```
> > > > >> > isUrp == size(original replicas) - size(isr) > 0
> > > > >> > ```
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Stan,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That's a good point.  Basically we should regard the size of the
> > > > original
> > > > >> replica set as the desired replication factor, and calculate the
> URPs
> > > > based
> > > > >> on that.  +1 for this.  (I assume Jason will update the KIP...)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> best,
> > > > >> Colin
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Taking that into account, +1 from me! (non-binding)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 7:00 PM Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > +1 (binding).
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > cheers,
> > > > >> > > Colin
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, at 10:55, Jason Gustafson wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Hi All,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I'd like to start a vote on KIP-352, which is a follow-up to
> > > > >> KIP-455 to
> > > > >> > > > fix
> > > > >> > > > a long-known shortcoming of URP reporting and to improve
> > > > >> reassignment
> > > > >> > > > monitoring:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-352%3A+Distinguish+URPs+caused+by+reassignment
> > > > >> > > > .
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Note that I have added one new metric following the
> discussion.
> > > It
> > > > >> seemed
> > > > >> > > > useful to have a lag metric for reassigning partitions.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> > > > Jason
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > Best,
> > > > >> > Stanislav
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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