Hi Sophie,

I cannot find the attachment from your previous email --- in fact, ASF
mailing list usually blocks all attachments for security reasons. If you
can share a link to the image (google drawings etc) in your email that
would be great.

Guozhang

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:02 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@confluent.io>
wrote:

> Just to throw another proposal out there and inspire some debate, here's a
> similar-but-different
> idea (inspired by John + some sketches I found on google):
>
> *~~ See attachment, inlined image is too large for the mailing list ~~*
>
> This one's definitely more fun, my only concern is that it doesn't really
> scale well. At the lower end
> of sizes the otters will be pretty difficult to see; and I had to stretch
> out the Kafka circles even at
> the larger end just to fit them through.
>
> But maybe with a cleaner drawing and some color it'll still look good and
> be recognizable + distinct
> enough when small.
>
> Any thoughts? Any binding and/or non-binding votes?
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 1:00 AM Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
>> Seems the mailing list may have filtered the inlined prototype logo,
>> attaching it here instead
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:54 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@confluent.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Matthias makes a good point about being careful not to position Streams
>>> as
>>> outside of Apache Kafka. One obvious thing we could do it just include
>>> the
>>> Kafka logo as-is in the Streams logo, somehow.
>>>
>>> I have some unqualified opinions on what that might look like:
>>> A good logo is simple and clean, so incorporating the Kafka logo as a
>>> minor
>>> detail within a more complicated image is probably not the best way to
>>> get
>>> the quick and easy comprehension/recognition that we're going for.
>>>
>>> That said I'd throw out the idea of just attaching something to the
>>> Kafka logo,
>>> perhaps a stream-dwelling animal, perhaps a (river) otter? It could be
>>> "swimming" left of the Kafka logo, with its head touching the upper
>>> circle and
>>> its tail touching the bottom one. Like Streams, it starts with Kafka and
>>> ends
>>> with Kafka (ie reading input topics and writing to output topics).
>>>
>>> Without further ado, here's my very rough prototype for the Kafka
>>> Streams logo:
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> Obviously the real thing would be colored and presumably done by someone
>>> with actual artist talent/experience (or at least photoshop ability).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 1:08 PM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Boyang,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for starting this discussion. I like the idea in general
>>>> however we need to be a little careful IMHO -- as you mentioned Kafka
>>>> is one project and thus we should avoid the impression that Kafka
>>>> Streams is not part of Apache Kafka.
>>>>
>>>> Besides this, many projects use animals that are often very adorable.
>>>> Maybe we could find a cute Streams related mascot? :)
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear opinions especially from the PMC if having a logo
>>>> for Kafka Streams is a viable thing to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - -Matthias
>>>>
>>>> On 3/3/20 1:01 AM, Patrik Kleindl wrote:
>>>> > Hi Boyang Great idea, that would help in some discussions. To throw
>>>> > in a first idea: https://imgur.com/a/UowXaMk best regards Patrik
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 18:23, Boyang Chen
>>>> > <reluctanthero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hey Apache Kafka committers and community folks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> over the years Kafka Streams has been widely adopted and tons of
>>>> >> blog posts and tech talks have been trying to introduce it to
>>>> >> people with need of stream processing. As it is part of Apache
>>>> >> Kafka project, there is always an awkward situation where Kafka
>>>> >> Streams could not be campaigned as a standalone streaming engine,
>>>> >> and makes people confused about its relation to Kafka.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, do we want to introduce a customized logo just for Streams?
>>>> >> The immediate benefit is when people are making technical
>>>> >> decisions, we could list Streams as a logo just like Flink and
>>>> >> Spark Streaming, instead of putting Kafka logo there as it is not
>>>> >> literally a legitimate comparison between processing framework
>>>> >> and messaging system. Should we do a KIP for this?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Boyang
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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>>>

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-- Guozhang

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