Hi Konstantine,

I will remove the final modifier for now.

I added it because the removal of  the deprecated `close` overload could
lead to weird behavior if the no-args `close` was overridden (the
implementation of the no-arg `close` delegated to the removed `close`, but
that's no longer the case). However, I didn't realize `MockConsumer` was a
public class (which is a mistake imo since we tweak its behavior regularly
and sometimes add methods without a KIP).

Ismael

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 1:46 AM Konstantine Karantasis <
kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> Regarding KAFKA-13262, this might need a more detailed and strong
> justification to be considered as a blocker at this point in the release.
> But we are already moving towards RC2 because of the blockers mentioned
> above, so I'd be in favor of a PR that would revert the change that made
> this method final if we could get one this week. I'm not sure why the
> MockConsumer::close method was marked as final in
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/10438. The change is not included in
> the description. Maybe it wasn't obvious that this class is used outside
> this project or maybe we thought we should discourage such use.
>
> Gary, is this the only change you are referring to?
> Ismael, I see you authored the PR originally. Any thoughts on the suggested
> change?
>
> Konstantine
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM Konstantine Karantasis <
> kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Magnus,
> >
> > Thanks for reporting the numbers.
> >
> > I agree that what you observe warrants further investigation, not so much
> > because these are clear performance regressions but because they might be
> > indications of underlying issues, as you noted. However, from a major
> > release standpoint I'd say that such preliminary evidence probably falls
> > within the range of acceptable differences in the presence of major
> changes
> > and can be optimized over time in subsequent releases.
> >
> > Having said that, I'd take Israel's comment one step further and say that
> > in order to be able to give more definitive answers it'd be good to have
> a
> > description of the setup that is reproducible. Briefly, that would
> include
> > both the benchmark setup (specs etc) as well as the benchmark suite and
> the
> > way to run it (links to benchmark code including configurations and
> > description of how to run and reproduce).
> >
> > Small note that the attached plot is missing units on the x-axis (y-axis
> I
> > assume is milliseconds from your description).
> >
> > Konstantine
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 12:59 AM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Magnus,
> >>
> >> Please could you share the machine and network specs?
> >>
> >> How much CPU, RAM is available on each node?
> >>
> >> What JDK, JRE version are you using?
> >>
> >> What are your broker and client configuration values? Please could you
> >> share this info if possible?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:25 AM Magnus Edenhill <mag...@edenhill.se>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Konstantine,
> >> >
> >> > Some findings from running 3.0.0-RC1 with the librdkafka test suite:
> >> >
> >> > * Compaction seems to take slightly longer to kick in when segment
> sizes
> >> >   exceed their threshold. (Used to take less than 20 seconds, now
> takes
> >> > 20..30 seconds.)
> >> >
> >> > * CreateTopic seems to take slightly longer to propagate through the
> >> > cluster,
> >> >   e.g., before a new topic is available in metadata from other
> brokers.
> >> >
> >> > * CreateTopics seems to take longer when the Admin request timeout is
> >> set,
> >> >   looks like a plateau at 10 seconds:
> >> >   https://imgur.com/a/n6y76sj
> >> >
> >> > (This is a 3 broker cluster with identical configs between 2.8 and
> >> 3.0.0.)
> >> >
> >> > Nothing critical, but could be an indication of regression so I
> thought
> >> I'd
> >> > mention it.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Magnus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Den tis 31 aug. 2021 kl 17:51 skrev Konstantine Karantasis <
> >> > kkaranta...@apache.org>:
> >> >
> >> > > Small correction to my previous email.
> >> > > The actual link for public preview of the 3.0.0 blog post draft is:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/kafka/?previewEntry=what-s-new-in-apache6
> >> > >
> >> > > (see also the email thread with title: [DISCUSS] Please review the
> >> 3.0.0
> >> > > blog post)
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > Konstantine
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 6:34 PM Konstantine Karantasis <
> >> > > kkaranta...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is the second release candidate for Apache Kafka 3.0.0.
> >> > > > It corresponds to a major release that includes many new features,
> >> > > > including:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * The deprecation of support for Java 8 and Scala 2.12.
> >> > > > * Kafka Raft support for snapshots of the metadata topic and
> >> > > > other improvements in the self-managed quorum.
> >> > > > * Deprecation of message formats v0 and v1.
> >> > > > * Stronger delivery guarantees for the Kafka producer enabled by
> >> > default.
> >> > > > * Optimizations in OffsetFetch and FindCoordinator requests.
> >> > > > * More flexible Mirror Maker 2 configuration and deprecation of
> >> > > > Mirror Maker 1.
> >> > > > * Ability to restart a connector's tasks on a single call in Kafka
> >> > > Connect.
> >> > > > * Connector log contexts and connector client overrides are now
> >> enabled
> >> > > > by default.
> >> > > > * Enhanced semantics for timestamp synchronization in Kafka
> Streams.
> >> > > > * Revamped public API for Stream's TaskId.
> >> > > > * Default serde becomes null in Kafka Streams and several
> >> > > > other configuration changes.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You may read and review a more detailed list of changes in the
> 3.0.0
> >> > blog
> >> > > > post draft here:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/kafka/?previewEntry=what-s-new-in-apache6
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Release notes for the 3.0.0 release:
> >> > > >
> >> >
> https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *** Please download, test and vote by Wednesday, September 8, 2021
> >> ***
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
> >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
> >> > > > https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> >> > > >
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Javadoc:
> >> > > > https://home.apache.org/~kkarantasis/kafka-3.0.0-rc1/javadoc/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 3.0 branch) is the 3.0.0 tag:
> >> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/3.0.0-rc1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Documentation:
> >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/30/documentation.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Protocol:
> >> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/30/protocol.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Successful Jenkins builds for the 3.0 branch:
> >> > > > Unit/integration tests:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/blue/organizations/jenkins/Kafka%2Fkafka/detail/3.0/121/pipeline/
> >> > > > (only few flaky failures)
> >> > > > System tests:
> >> > > > https://jenkins.confluent.io/job/system-test-kafka/job/3.0/57/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > /**************************************
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > Konstantine
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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