Good morning, Knowles,

Thanks for the KIP!

To address your latest questions, it is fine to call for a
vote if a KIP doesn't generate much discussion. Either the
KIP was just not controversial enough for anyone to comment,
in which case a vote is appropriate; or no one had time to
review it, in which case, calling for a vote might be more
provacative and elicit a response.

As far as pinging people directly, one idea would be to look
at the git history (git blame/praise) for the files you're
changing to see which committers have recently been
involved. Those are the folks who are most likely to have
valuable feedback on your proposal. It might not be
appropriate to directly email them, but I have seen KIP
discussions before that requested feedback from people by
name. It's probably not best to lead with that, but since no
one has responded so far, it might not hurt. I'm sure that
the reason they haven't noticed your KIP is just that they
are so busy it slipped their radar. They might actually
appreciate a more direct ping at this point.

I'm happy to review, but as a caveat, I don't have much
experience with using or maintaining Connect, so caveat
emptor as far as my review goes.

First of all, thanks for the well written KIP. Without much
context, I was able to understand the motivation and
proposal easily just by reading your document.

I think your proposal is a good one. It seems like it would
be pretty obvious as a user what (if anything) to do with
the proposed method.

For your reference, this proposal reminds me of these
capabilities in Streams:
https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/streams/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/streams/errors/DeserializationExceptionHandler.java
and
https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/streams/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/streams/errors/ProductionExceptionHandler.java
.

I'm not sure if there's value in bringing your proposed
interface closer to that pattern or not. Streams and Connect
are quite different domains after all. At least, I wanted
you to be aware of them so you could consider the
alternative API strategy they present.

Regardless, I do wonder if it would be helpful to also
include the actual ProducerRecord we tried to send, since
there's a non-trivial transformation that takes place to
convert the SourceRecord into a ProducerRecord. I'm not sure
what people would do with it, exactly, but it might be
helpful in deciding what to do about the exception, or maybe
even in understanding the exception.

Those are the only thoughts that come to my mind! Thanks
again,
-John

On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 09:16 -0400, Knowles Atchison Jr
wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> Bumping this thread. Is there someone specific on the Connect framework
> team that I should ping? Is it appropriate to just call a vote? All source
> connectors are dead in the water without a way to handle producer write
> exceptions. Thank you.
> 
> Knowles
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:33 AM Christopher Shannon <
> christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I also would find this feature useful to handle errors better, does anyone
> > have any comments or feedback?
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:52 AM Knowles Atchison Jr <katchiso...@gmail.com
> > > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Good morning,
> > > 
> > > Bumping this for visibility. I would like this to go into the next
> > release.
> > > KIP freeze is Friday.
> > > 
> > > Any comments and feedback are welcome.
> > > 
> > > Knowles
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:24 PM Knowles Atchison Jr <
> > katchiso...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to discuss the following KIP:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-779%3A+Allow+Source+Tasks+to+Handle+Producer+Exceptions
> > > > 
> > > > The main purpose is to allow Source Tasks the ability to see underlying
> > > > Producer Exceptions and decide what to do rather than being killed. In
> > > our
> > > > use cases we would want to log/write off some information and continue
> > > > processing.
> > > > 
> > > > PR is here:
> > > > 
> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/11382
> > > > 
> > > > Any comments and feedback are welcome.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Knowles
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 


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