I think there is a difference between the "Powered by" page and a page for vendors to advertise their products and services.
The idea is that the companies on that page are "powered by" Kafka. They serve as examples of happy users of Kafka. I don't think it is meant only as a place just for those companies to advertise. I'm a little confused by > In this case, I'm ok to say that the commercial support section in the "Get support" is no need as we can use this page. If you plan to submit for this page, please include a description on how your company uses Kafka. I'm happy to hear other folks' opinions on this page as well. Thanks, Justine On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 8:57 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > About the vendors list and neutrality, what is the policy of the > "Powered by" page? > > https://kafka.apache.org/powered-by > > We can see company with logo, some are talking about their product > (Agoora), some are offering services (Instaclustr, Aiven), and we can > also see some that just put their logo and a link to their website > without any explanation (GoldmanSachs). > > So as I understand and after reading the text in the footer of this > page, every company can add themselves by providing a PR right? > > "Want to appear on this page? > Submit a pull request or send a quick description of your organization > and usage to the mailing list and we'll add you." > > In this case, I'm ok to say that the commercial support section in the > "Get support" is no need as we can use this page. > > regards, > > François > > > On 10/01/2024 19:03, Kenneth Eversole wrote: > > I agree with Divji here and to be more pointed. I worry that if we go > down > > the path of adding vendors to a list it comes off as supporting their > > product, not to mention could be a huge security risk for novice users. I > > would rather this be a callout to other purely open source tooling, such > as > > cruise control. > > > > Divji brings up good question > > 1. What value does additional of this page bring to the users of Apache > > Kafka? > > > > I think the community would be a better service to have a more > synchronous > > line of communication such as Slack/Discord and we call that out here. It > > would be more inline with other major open source projects. > > > > --- > > Kenneth Eversole > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 10:30 AM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I don't see a need for this. What additional information does this > provide > >> over what can be found via a quick google search? > >> > >> My primary concern is that we are getting in the business of listing > >> vendors in the project site which brings it's own complications without > >> adding much additional value for users. In the spirit of being vendor > >> neutral, I would try to avoid this as much as possible. > >> > >> So, my question to you is: > >> 1. What value does additional of this page bring to the users of Apache > >> Kafka? > >> 2. When a new PR is submitted to add a vendor, what criteria do we have > to > >> decide whether to add them or not? If we keep a blanket criteria of > >> accepting all PRs, then we may end up in a situation where the llink > >> redirects to a phishing page or nefarious website. Hence, we might have > to > >> at least perform some basic due diligence which adds overhead to the > >> resources of the community. > >> > >> -- > >> Divij Vaidya > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:00 PM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> After starting a first thread on this topic ( > >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kkox33rhtjcdr5zztq3lzj7c5s7k9wsr), I > >>> would like to propose a PR: > >>> > >>> https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/577 > >>> > >>> The purpose of this proposal is to help users to find support for sla, > >>> training, consulting...whatever that is not provide by the community > as, > >>> like we can already see in many ASF projects, no commercial support is > >>> provided by the foundation. I think it could help with the adoption and > >> the > >>> growth of the project because the users > >>> need commercial support for production issues. > >>> > >>> If the community is agree about this idea and want to move forward, I > >> just > >>> add one company in the PR but everybody can add some by providing a new > >> PR > >>> to complete the list. If people want me to add other you can reply to > >> this > >>> thread because it will be better to have several company at the first > >>> publication of the page. > >>> > >>> Just provide the company-name and a short description of the service > >> offer > >>> around Apache Kafka. The information must be factual and informational > in > >>> nature and not be a marketing statement. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> > >>> François > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- > -- > François > >
