Hi all,

As @Mario Fiore Vitale<mailto:mvit...@redhat.com> mentioned, we have now 
received enough votes.

Therefore, should we close this voting and start the development?





On 2024/06/14 08:00:45 Mario Fiore Vitale wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> We have 4 binding +1 votes. Do you think the vote can be closed and

> mark the KIP as approved?

>

> Thanks,

> Mario.

>

> On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 8:44 AM Punsak Incham 
> <pu...@mfec.co.th<mailto:pu...@mfec.co.th>> wrote:

>

> > Thanks! Chris.

> > Waiting @Mario Fiore Vitale to close the voting and mark it as approved.

> >

> > Cheers.

> >

> > On 2024/06/14 06:10:15 Chris Egerton wrote:

> > > We don't have to patch every SMT in the same release, we can

> > > definitely move incrementally. We'll just have to note in the

> > > release notes and the KIPs page (

> > > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F

> > > cwik%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cpunsak%40mfec.co.th%7Cf933b95ace7c4eca8a7c0

> > > 8dc8ec20be4%7C74105ed972ff4685915475f7408b6f67%7C1%7C0%7C638542211

> > > 281036334%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2lu

> > > MzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=u8Gak9%2F7IZ

> > > b7vxi2aAW26jup4IcLiyHXWPikv6gpSDo%3D&reserved=0

> > > i.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FKAFKA%2FKafka%2BImprovement%

> > > 2BPr

> > > oposals&data=05%7C02%7Cpunsak%40mfec.co.th%7Ca24883ed513b45d31ca50

> > > 8dc8

> > > c3c2de1%7C74105ed972ff4685915475f7408b6f67%7C1%7C0%7C6385394373000

> > > 4293

> > > 1%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB

> > > TiI6

> > > Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=mcPQROjQyuK1Z2vDl%2BLVki

> > > 8AeB

> > > FsnTIkqxaX8FR2LRA%3D&reserved=0) when the change for the KIP was

> > > applied to each SMT.

> > >

> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 11:03 PM Punsak Incham

> > > <pu...@mfec.co.th.invalid<mailto:pu...@mfec.co.th.invalid>>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thanks! Chris.

> > > >

> > > > One question : We will need to wait to fix all SMTs in the KIP

> > > > and release it to user, or we can split some fixed SMTs to user early?

> > > > (I noticed that the PR of Mario ready to merge and it effect

> > > > only ExtractField and

> > > > InsertField)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 2024/06/13 17:01:49 Chris Egerton wrote:

> > > > > Hi Punsak,

> > > > >

> > > > > If nobody has signaled their intent to contribute that work

> > > > > yet (which I believe is the case), you are welcome to take it

> > > > > on

> > yourself!

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 12:52 Punsak Incham

> > > > > <pu...@mfec.co.th.invalid<mailto:pu...@mfec.co.th.invalid>>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > My customers are using these SMTs, I think it can affect to

> > > > > > their

> > > > project

> > > > > > (about data correctness) in the future.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (You may think why I'm not developing it and send to my

> > > > > > customers directly? Because they will use only SMTs that

> > > > > > published by Kafka.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2024/06/13 16:38:45 Punsak Incham wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > I noticed that the PR of Mario effected only InsertField

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > ExtractField, so I'd like to amend others SMTs in that KIP

> > > > > > because I

> > > > have

> > > > > > experienced to develop custom SMTs.

> > > > > > > Can I join to contribute (open PR)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2024/06/13 15:59:36 Greg Harris wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hey Mario,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for updating the KIP.

> > > > > > > > +1 (binding)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Greg

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 1:32 AM Mario Fiore Vitale <

> > > > mv...@redhat.com<mailto:mv...@redhat.com>>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Greg,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However, the KIP still omits the MaskField and

> > > > > > > > > > ValueToKey

> > > > > > > > > transformations.

> > > > > > > > > This looks like just a typo to me, should we update

> > > > > > > > > the KIP

> > > > before

> > > > > > closing

> > > > > > > > > the vote?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good catch. I have just updated the KIP.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think that we can close the voting and mark it as

> > > > > > > > > approved,

> > > > right?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you all.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:21 PM Greg Harris

> > > > <gr...@aiven.io.invalid<mailto:gr...@aiven.io.invalid>>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you for mentioning the earlier DISCUSS thread.

> > > > > > > > > > I found

> > > > this

> > > > > > comment

> > > > > > > > > > from Chris, which was agreed upon and applied to the KIP:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I think we should just do one KIP for all the

> > > > > > > > > > > SMTs. You

> > > > > > don't have

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > implement everything all at once or by yourself,

> > > > > > > > > > > but I don't

> > > > see

> > > > > > why we

> > > > > > > > > > > should require one or more follow-up KIPs to apply

> > > > > > > > > > > the exact

> > > > same

> > > > > > > > > changes

> > > > > > > > > > > to the SMTs we missed the first time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However, the KIP still omits the MaskField and

> > > > > > > > > > ValueToKey

> > > > > > > > > transformations.

> > > > > > > > > > This looks like just a typo to me, should we update

> > > > > > > > > > the KIP

> > > > before

> > > > > > > > > closing

> > > > > > > > > > the vote?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > Greg

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 6:50 AM Mario Fiore Vitale <

> > > > > > mv...@redhat.com<mailto:mv...@redhat.com>>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The same check was made by Chris Egerton during

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > discussion

> > > > > > thread.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The original KIP scope was just for the

> > > > > > > > > > > InsertField,

> > > > > > ExtractField SMTs,

> > > > > > > > > > > then we decided to enlarge the scope of only the

> > > > > > > > > > > KIP to also

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > potential affected SMTs.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As of now the PR scope, instead, is only for

> > > > > > > > > > > InsertField and

> > > > > > > > > ExtractField

> > > > > > > > > > > SMTs.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > > Mario.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 12:08 AM Greg Harris

> > > > > > > > > > <greg.har...@aiven.io.invalid

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP. I'm on-board with this KIP,

> > > > > > > > > > > > I just

> > > > wanted

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > verify a

> > > > > > > > > > > > discrepancy I noticed.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I checked all of the call-sites of

> > > > > > > > > > > > Struct#get(Field) and

> > > > > > > > > > > Struct#get(String)

> > > > > > > > > > > > in Kafka, and noticed there are some call-sites

> > > > > > > > > > > > which are

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > included

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > the KIP.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Flatten transformation seems to already

> > > > > > > > > > > > have the "replace.null.with.default=false"

> > > > > > > > > > > > behavior

> > unconditionally.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The MaskField transformation unconditionally

> > > > > > > > > > > > injects

> > > > default

> > > > > > > > > values

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > top-level structs.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The ValueTokey transformation injects

> > > > > > > > > > > > defaults for each

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > configured "fields"

> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. The Values#convertToString method injects

> > > > > > > > > > > > default

> > > > values,

> > > > > > but as

> > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > isn't configurable I think we'll need to leave

> > > > > > > > > > > > it

> > as-is.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Did you intend to add this configuration to the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Flatten,

> > > > > > MaskField,

> > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > ValueToKey transformations, or should those be

> > > > > > > > > > > > addressed

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > separate

> > > > > > > > > > > > effort?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Since the "false" behavior is desirable, I think

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > Flatten

> > > > > > > > > transform

> > > > > > > > > > > > could be left as-is, rather than adding a

> > > > > > > > > > > > configuration

> > > > that

> > > > > > nobody

> > > > > > > > > > > needs.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Greg

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:24 AM Yash Mayya <

> > > > ya...@gmail.com<mailto:ya...@gmail.com>>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 7:40 PM Mario Fiore

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vitale <

> > > > > > > > > > mvit...@redhat.com<mailto:mvit...@redhat.com>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to bump up this thread for visibility.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 5:31 PM Mickael

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maison <

> > > > > > > > > > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com<mailto:mickael.mai...@gmail.com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mickael

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 12:06 PM Mario

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fiore Vitale <

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mvit...@redhat.com<mailto:mvit...@redhat.com>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After 7 days I received only one vote.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I

> > > > > > suppose this

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > approved?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 4:14 PM Chris

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Egerton

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <chr...@aiven.io.invalid

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP! +1 (binding)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 4:22 AM Mario

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fiore

> > > > Vitale <

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mvit...@redhat.com<mailto:mvit...@redhat.com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to call a vote on KIP-1040

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which aims

> > > > to

> > > > > > improve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > handling

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nullable values in InsertField,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ExtractField,

> > > > and

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transformations

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KIP -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion thread -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A

> > > > > > %2F%

> > > > > > 2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread%2Fggqqqjbg6ccpz8g6ztyj7oxr80q518

> > > > > > 4n&d

> > > > > > ata=05%7C02%7Cpunsak%40mfec.co.th%7Ca24883ed513b45d31ca508dc

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, Mario

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senior Software Engineer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red Hat

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Punsak Incham
Data Platform Engineer (Kafka and Confluent)
MFEC

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