Hi, Thanks for the answer. However I still do not have a clear picture on how we should go from version 2.2.1 which we are on at the moment. Options
1. Straight jump from 2.2.1 to 3.6.3 2. Jump from 2.2.1 to 2.6.2 and then the second jump from 2.6.2. to 3.6.3 What’s you recommendation here? Thanks, [A blue background with white text and black text Description automatically generated] Wojciech Frycz Group Head of Engineering – Sports, MrGreen, Evoke, Data Migrations Mobile: +48 790 417 534 Grand Parade part of William Hill ul. Kotlarska 11 | 31-539 Krakow From: Sejal Patel <se...@playerzero.ai> Date: Monday, 17 June 2024 at 14:16 To: us...@kafka.apache.org <us...@kafka.apache.org>, kafka-clie...@googlegroups.com <kafka-clie...@googlegroups.com>, dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org>, Wojciech Frycz <wojciech.fr...@grandparade.co.uk> Cc: Cezary Gajdzinski <cezary.gajdzin...@williamhill.com>, Slawomir Kmiecik <slawomir.kmie...@grandparade.co.uk>, Ricardo Antunes (WH Online) <ricardo.antu...@williamhill.com> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Kafka upgrade recommendation Hey Wojciech, It has been a long time since we did the jump but we had waited until 3.3.x release when we did the jump and there were a lot of manual steps at that time. We then had another manual step when going to either 3.4 or 3.5 don't remember which but that one was easier cause we did have the option to turn off every broker and kraft server at once to do that one safely. I would suggest going from 2.6.2 to 3.6.2 and then stopping and waiting until 3.7.1 comes out as there is a pretty serious flaw in 3.7.0. And I would suggest probably seeing what the official migration guides have to say because my understanding is that the bulk of the changes since we started the migration is around making sure it is a smooth and safe upgrade process overall. The other option that you could always do (our fallback plan) is to spinup a brand new cluster and to copy all the topics from the old cluster to the new cluster. Tedious and takes several days depending on how much data you have but it is safe and works as well. Sorry I don't know what are all of the options and a lot has changed since we had to do the hard step of going from 2 to 3. Once on 3.x, the upgrades have been pretty smooth. On Mon Jun 17, 2024, 10:06 AM GMT, Wojciech Frycz<mailto:wojciech.fr...@grandparade.co.uk> wrote: Hi Sejal, Thanks for reaching out. What would be your recommended strategy to go from 2.2.1 into 3.6.2 version? Can we securely do it in one jump or we should use some step in between (e.g. to jump form 2.2.1 to 2.6.2 and then from 2.6.2 to 3.6.2)? Thanks, Error! Filename not specified. Wojciech Frycz Group Head of Engineering – Sports, MrGreen, Evoke, Data Migrations Mobile: +48 790 417 534 Grand Parade part of William Hill ul. Kotlarska 11 | 31-539 Krakow From: Sejal Patel <se...@playerzero.ai> Date: Saturday, 15 June 2024 at 17:28 To: us...@kafka.apache.org <us...@kafka.apache.org>, kafka-clie...@googlegroups.com <kafka-clie...@googlegroups.com>, dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> Cc: Cezary Gajdzinski <cezary.gajdzin...@williamhill.com>, Wojciech Frycz <wojciech.fr...@grandparade.co.uk>, Slawomir Kmiecik <slawomir.kmie...@grandparade.co.uk>, Ricardo Antunes (WH Online) <ricardo.antu...@williamhill.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Kafka upgrade recommendation I would suggest going from 2.6.2 to 3.6.2 and then stopping and waiting until 3.7.1 comes out. There is a pretty serious flaw in 3.7.0 that hit us and we ended up having to downgrade to 3.6.2 to recover. The bug is fixed but not going to be released until 3.7.1 comes out. The bug prevented metadata from being readable and thus anytime a node restarted (including the kraft server itself), it could never come back online or be unregistered from the cluster either. Sejal [Patel] | CTO se...@playerzero.ai<mailto:se...@playerzero.ai> | 470.440.1255 On Thu Jun 13, 2024, 03:26 PM GMT, Jose Manuel Monroy<mailto:jose.mon...@888williamhill.com> wrote: Hi there, We have few clusters in AWS world and being forced to bump cluster version. So, we are considering options to be in safer way possible, mitigating risks, and without outage as possible (our business is 24/7). Upgrade would be from 2.2.1 / 2.6.2 to 3.7.0 (MSK recommended version). Things to consider: * Recommended configurations in place so rolling restart is not impacting producers/consumers * Clients from different technologies (Java official client/Java SpringBoot Spring Cloud Stream/Alpakka Scala/NodeJS) around those versions * 2.2.1 cluster version -> TLS SSL SASL/SCRAM authenticated * 2.2.6 cluster version -> unathenticated * We don’t use Kafka streams Could you please which would be your recommendation in terms of upgrade brokers? Can be done directly or in several steps? We should upgrade clients before than brokers? If so, in which way? Client side, any recommendation of clients? (example: we use NodeJs rdkafka and looking could be limited to brokers 2.3.0, so probably we will need to jump into another client) Thanks Error! Filename not specified. 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