Would it be a good time to ask for the current status of this KIP? I haven't seen much activity here for the past 2 months, the vote got vetoed but I think the pending questions have been answered since then. KIP-1183 (AutoMQ's proposal) also didn't have any activity since May.
In my eyes KIP-1150 and KIP-1183 are two real choices that can be made, with a coordinator-based approach being by far the dominant one when it comes to market adoption - but all these are standalone products. I'm a big fan of both approaches, but would hate to see a stall. So the question is: can we get an update? Maybe it's time to start another vote? Colin McCabe - have your questions been answered? If not, is there anything I can do to help? I'm deeply familiar with both architectures and have written about both? Kind regards, Jan On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 10:42 AM Stanislav Kozlovski < stanislavkozlov...@apache.org> wrote: > I have some nits - it may be useful to > > a) group all the KIP email threads in the main one (just a bunch of links > to everything) > b) create the email threads > > It's a bit hard to track it all - for example, I was searching for a > discuss thread for KIP-1165 for a while; As far as I can tell, it doesn't > exist yet. > > Since the KIPs are published (by virtue of having the root KIP be > published, having a DISCUSS thread and links to sub-KIPs where were aimed > to move the discussion towards), I think it would be good to create DISCUSS > threads for them all. > > Best, > Stan > > On 2025/04/16 11:58:22 Josep Prat wrote: > > Hi Kafka Devs! > > > > We want to start a new KIP discussion about introducing a new type of > > topics that would make use of Object Storage as the primary source of > > storage. However, as this KIP is big we decided to split it into multiple > > related KIPs. > > We have the motivational KIP-1150 ( > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1150%3A+Diskless+Topics > ) > > that aims to discuss if Apache Kafka should aim to have this type of > > feature at all. This KIP doesn't go onto details on how to implement it. > > This follows the same approach used when we discussed KRaft. > > > > But as we know that it is sometimes really hard to discuss on that meta > > level, we also created several sub-kips (linked in KIP-1150) that offer > an > > implementation of this feature. > > > > We kindly ask you to use the proper DISCUSS threads for each type of > > concern and keep this one to discuss whether Apache Kafka wants to have > > this feature or not. > > > > Thanks in advance on behalf of all the authors of this KIP. > > > > ------------------ > > Josep Prat > > Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven > > josep.p...@aiven.io | +491715557497 | aiven.io > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH > > Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa, Hannu Valtonen, > > Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > >