Hi Mahsa,

I see you have the definition of the metric value as:
controller idle ratio = idle_time/active_time

Shouldn't the value for a ratio be:
controller idle ratio = idle_time/total_time
where total_time = idle_time + active_time?
This lines up with the definition you outlined earlier in the metric value
description.

Best,
Kevin Wu

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 11:54 AM Mahsa Seifikar
<mseifi...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:

> Thanks Jonah and Kevin for the feedback.
>
> I have updated the KIP accordingly. We ideally want to use something like
> the TimeRatio type for this metric, similar to how "poll-idle-ratio" is
> measured in KafkaRaftMetrics.
>
> Please let me know if you have any further feedback.
>
> Best,
> Mahsa Seifikar
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 4:08 PM Kevin Wu <kevin.wu2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mahsa and Jonah,
> >
> > Since we're adding this new metric to a metrics group that is still using
> > Yammer, ideally I think we want to use RatioGauge to give us the sampling
> > functionality we need. It's possible that we can get similar
> functionality
> > from Histogram, which I know other Yammer metrics in Kafka use. We are
> > still able to get gauge metrics from the histogram, as they are the most
> > straightforward for the operator to monitor (e.g. if the metric value >
> X,
> > alert). For example, metrics that are histograms, like EventQueueTimeMs,
> > are often monitored via their p99 or p999 value.
> >
> > There are several other "thread-idle-ratio" metrics in Kafka, but those
> are
> > all using the newer, internal KafkaMetrics library's sensors.
> >
> > Best,
> > Kevin Wu
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 2:09 PM Mahsa Seifikar
> > <mseifi...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jonah and Kevin,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments. I have now updated the KIP to address your
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you have any further questions.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Mahsa Seifikar
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 4:40 PM Mahsa Seifikar <mseifi...@confluent.io>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I wrote a short KIP to add a new metric for controller thread
> idleness.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the link:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1190%3A+Add+a+metric+for+controller+thread+idleness
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mahsa Seifikar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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