hi Edoardo

thanks for your quick fix. I left some comments on the PR, and apologies
for the delay

Best,
Chia-Ping

Edoardo Comar <[email protected]> 於 2025年12月23日週二 下午5:48寫道:

> Merged, will add some text for the release notes
>
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 at 18:03, Edoardo Comar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19263 updated to align with KIP
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 at 13:01, Edoardo Comar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > minikip :
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1252%3A+AlterConfigPolicy+compatibility+in+legacy+Zookeeper+mode
> > >
> > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 at 09:54, Edoardo Comar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes - but what would be the deadline to deliver this ?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 at 02:23, Luke Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Chia-Ping,
> > > > >
> > > > > Adding a new config sounds good to me.
> > > > > Usually in minor releases, we don't accept new features, but for
> ZK support
> > > > > in v3.9.x, this could be an exception in my opinion.
> > > > > But of course it needs a KIP and community discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Edoardo, do you think this is acceptable?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Luke
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2025 at 8:33 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How about introducing a configuration called
> > > > > > alter.config.policy.kraft.compatibility.enable to control this
> behavior?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The default value would be false, meaning nothing changes in
> 3.9.2.
> > > > > > Conversely, setting it to true would align the behavior with
> KRaft policy
> > > > > > validation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Edoardo Comar <[email protected]> 於 2025年12月4日 晚上10:15 寫道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chia-Ping,
> > > > > > > I respectfully disagree with such a quick decision.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 at 02:07, Chia-Ping Tsai <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Long-standing bugs often become features.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Let's keep this behavior for 3.9.2. I recommend updating the
> > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > >> to explicitly highlight this distinction.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Ismael Juma <[email protected]> 於 2025年12月4日週四 上午6:23寫道:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks for starting the discussion. Given that this behavior
> has
> > > > > > existed
> > > > > > >>> for so long, I would be reluctant to change it in a patch
> release for
> > > > > > 3.9.x
> > > > > > >>> unless there is strong demand from the community.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Ismael
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 6:18 AM PoAn Yang <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi developers,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I'd like to initiate a discussion regarding the
> AlterConfigPolicy in
> > > > > > >>>> version 3.9.2.
> > > > > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-19026
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> The key issue is the difference in behavior for
> OpType.SUBTRACT and
> > > > > > >>>> OpType.APPEND between KRaft and ZK modes.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> In KRaft mode, AlterConfigPolicy#validate receives the
> modified
> > > > > > >>>> RequestMetadata.
> > > > > > >>>> In ZK mode, it receives the original user input.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> We can observe this difference by looking at the
> OpType.SUBTRACT
> > > > > > example
> > > > > > >>>> provided in the attachments:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13075589/KAFKA19026Test.java
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13075585/KAFKA19026Policy.java
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Example Output in KRaft Mode:
> > > > > > >>>>
> AlterConfigPolicy.RequestMetadata(resource=ConfigResource(type=BROKER,
> > > > > > >>>> name='0'), configs={ssl.cipher.suites=}).
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Example Output in ZK Mode:
> > > > > > >>>>
> AlterConfigPolicy.RequestMetadata(resource=ConfigResource(type=BROKER,
> > > > > > >>>> name='0'), configs={ssl.cipher.suites=foo}).
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> The ZK behavior has been in place since 2.3.1. Therefore, I
> want to
> > > > > > check
> > > > > > >>>> if the community wants to align this behavior in 3.9.2.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/2.3.1/core/src/main/scala/kafka/server/AdminManager.scala#L462-L479
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> If this is considered a behavioral change, it might be
> risky to
> > > > > > include
> > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > >>>> a patch version (3.9.2). However, if it's classified as a
> bug, then we
> > > > > > >>>> should proceed with the fix in 3.9.2.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Feel free to share your opinions. Thank you!
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > > > > >>>> PoAn
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
>

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