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Stefan Miklosovic edited comment on KAFKA-1835 at 7/12/15 2:51 PM:
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I am still hitting this issue, I need to move to 0.8.3 because of new 
committing features in consumer but I can not send any messages to topics 
because it timeouts on this error. I am quite desparate, wrapping it in a 
thread does not work at all ... Is not there any configuration property which 
would theoretically unblock it? Will this be ever released in 0.8.3 please?


[~dhay] Could I know what is your use case? Have you ever been successful in 
sending of a mesasge to broker with this new API? If yes, what has to be done 
in order to be able to send it? I mean, the problem is that there is some kind 
of blocking when producer is about to fetch the metadata information for the 
first time. If you use this to your satisfaction, how is it possible that you 
do not block? If you do block, how do you send messages?



was (Author: smiklosovic):
I am still hitting this issue, I need to move to 0.8.3 because of new 
committing features in consumer but I can not send any messages to topics 
because it timeouts on this error. I am quite desparate, wrapping it in a 
thread does not work at all ... Is not there any configuration property which 
would theoretically unblock it? Will this be ever released in 0.8.3 please?


[~dhay] Could I know what is your use case? Have you ever been successful in 
sending of a mesasge to brooker with this new API? If yes, what has to be done 
in order to be able to send it? I mean, the problem is that there is some kind 
of blocking when producer is about to fetch the metadata information for the 
first time. If you use this to your satisfaction, how is it possible that you 
do not block? If you do block, how do you send messages?


> Kafka new producer needs options to make blocking behavior explicit
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-1835
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1835
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: clients
>    Affects Versions: 0.8.2.0, 0.8.3, 0.9.0
>            Reporter: Paul Pearcy
>             Fix For: 0.8.3
>
>         Attachments: KAFKA-1835-New-producer--blocking_v0.patch, 
> KAFKA-1835.patch
>
>   Original Estimate: 504h
>  Remaining Estimate: 504h
>
> The new (0.8.2 standalone) producer will block the first time it attempts to 
> retrieve metadata for a topic. This is not the desired behavior in some use 
> cases where async non-blocking guarantees are required and message loss is 
> acceptable in known cases. Also, most developers will assume an API that 
> returns a future is safe to call in a critical request path. 
> Discussing on the mailing list, the most viable option is to have the 
> following settings:
>  pre.initialize.topics=x,y,z
>  pre.initialize.timeout=x
>  
> This moves potential blocking to the init of the producer and outside of some 
> random request. The potential will still exist for blocking in a corner case 
> where connectivity with Kafka is lost and a topic not included in pre-init 
> has a message sent for the first time. 
> There is the question of what to do when initialization fails. There are a 
> couple of options that I'd like available:
> - Fail creation of the client 
> - Fail all sends until the meta is available 
> Open to input on how the above option should be expressed. 
> It is also worth noting more nuanced solutions exist that could work without 
> the extra settings, they just end up having extra complications and at the 
> end of the day not adding much value. For instance, the producer could accept 
> and queue messages(note: more complicated than I am making it sound due to 
> storing all accepted messages in pre-partitioned compact binary form), but 
> you're still going to be forced to choose to either start blocking or 
> dropping messages at some point. 
> I have some test cases I am going to port over to the Kafka producer 
> integration ones and start from there. My current impl is in scala, but 
> porting to Java shouldn't be a big deal (was using a promise to track init 
> status, but will likely need to make that an atomic bool). 



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