Onur Karaman created KAFKA-3810:
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             Summary: replication of internal topics should not be limited by 
replica.fetch.max.bytes
                 Key: KAFKA-3810
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3810
             Project: Kafka
          Issue Type: Bug
            Reporter: Onur Karaman
            Assignee: Onur Karaman


>From the kafka-dev mailing list discussion:
[\[DISCUSS\] scalability limits in the 
coordinator|http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/kafka-dev/201605.mbox/%3ccamquqbzddtadhcgl6h4smtgo83uqt4s72gc03b3vfghnme3...@mail.gmail.com%3E]

There's a scalability limit on the new consumer / coordinator regarding the 
amount of group metadata we can fit into one message. This restricts a 
combination of consumer group size, topic subscription sizes, topic assignment 
sizes, and any remaining member metadata.

Under more strenuous use cases like mirroring clusters with thousands of 
topics, this limitation can be reached even after applying gzip to the 
__consumer_offsets topic.

Various options were proposed in the discussion:
# Config change: reduce the number of consumers in the group. This isn't always 
a realistic answer in more strenuous use cases like MirrorMaker clusters or for 
auditing.
# Config change: split the group into smaller groups which together will get 
full coverage of the topics. This gives each group member a smaller 
subscription.(ex: g1 has topics starting with a-m while g2 has topics starting 
with n-z). This would be operationally painful to manage.
# Config change: split the topics among members of the group. Again this gives 
each group member a smaller subscription. This would also be operationally 
painful to manage.
# Config change: bump up KafkaConfig.messageMaxBytes (a topic-level config) and 
KafkaConfig.replicaFetchMaxBytes (a broker-level config). Applying 
messageMaxBytes to just the __consumer_offsets topic seems relatively harmless, 
but bumping up the broker-level replicaFetchMaxBytes would probably need more 
attention.
# Config change: try different compression codecs. Based on 2 minutes of 
googling, it seems like lz4 and snappy are faster than gzip but have worse 
compression, so this probably won't help.
# Implementation change: support sending the regex over the wire instead of the 
fully expanded topic subscriptions. I think people said in the past that 
different languages have subtle differences in regex, so this doesn't play 
nicely with cross-language groups.
# Implementation change: maybe we can reverse the mapping? Instead of mapping 
from member to subscriptions, we can map a subscription to a list of members.
# Implementation change: maybe we can try to break apart the subscription and 
assignments from the same SyncGroupRequest into multiple records? They can 
still go to the same message set and get appended together. This way the limit 
become the segment size, which shouldn't be a problem. This can be tricky to 
get right because we're currently keying these messages on the group, so I 
think records from the same rebalance might accidentally compact one another, 
but my understanding of compaction isn't that great.
# Implementation change: try to apply some tricks on the assignment 
serialization to make it smaller.
# Config and Implementation change: bump up the __consumer_offsets topic 
messageMaxBytes and (from [~junrao]) fix how we deal with the case when a 
message is larger than the fetch size. Today, if the fetch size is smaller than 
the fetch size, the consumer will get stuck. Instead, we can simply return the 
full message if it's larger than the fetch size w/o requiring the consumer to 
manually adjust the fetch size.
# Config and Implementation change: same as above but only apply the special 
fetch logic when fetching from internal topics



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