Hi Vahid,

+1 for OffsetFetch from me too.

I also wanted to ask the strangeness of the permissions, like why is
OffsetCommit a Read operation instead of Write which would intuitively make
more sense to me. Perhaps any expert could shed some light on this? :)

Viktor

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Vahid S Hashemian <
vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi Michal,
>
> Thanks a lot for your feedback.
>
> Your statement about Heartbeat is fair and makes sense. I'll update the
> KIP accordingly.
>
> --Vahid
>
>
>
>
> From:        Michal Borowiecki <michal.borowie...@openbet.com>
> To:        us...@kafka.apache.org, Vahid S Hashemian <
> vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com>, dev@kafka.apache.org
> Date:        06/13/2017 01:35 AM
> Subject:        Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-163: Lower the Minimum Required ACL
> Permission of OffsetFetch
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Vahid,
>
> +1 wrt OffsetFetch.
>
> The "Additional Food for Thought" mentions Heartbeat as a non-mutating
> action. I don't think that's true as the GroupCoordinator updates the
> latestHeartbeat field for the member and adds a new object to the
> heartbeatPurgatory, see completeAndScheduleNextHeartbeatExpiration()
> called from handleHeartbeat()
>
> NB added dev mailing list back into CC as it seems to have been lost along
> the way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> MichaƂ
>
>
> On 12/06/17 18:47, Vahid S Hashemian wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> To be honest, I'm not sure either why Read was selected instead of Write
> for mutating APIs in the initial design (I asked Ewen on the corresponding
> JIRA and he seemed unsure too).
> Perhaps someone who was involved in the design can clarify.
>
> Thanks.
> --Vahid
>
>
>
>
> From:   Colin McCabe *<cmcc...@apache.org>* <cmcc...@apache.org>
> To:     *us...@kafka.apache.org* <us...@kafka.apache.org>
> Date:   06/12/2017 10:11 AM
> Subject:        Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-163: Lower the Minimum Required ACL
> Permission of OffsetFetch
>
>
>
> Hi Vahid,
>
> I think you make a valid point that the ACLs controlling group
> operations are not very intuitive.
>
> This is probably a dumb question, but why are we using Read for mutating
> APIs?  Shouldn't that be Write?
>
> The distinction between Describe and Read makes a lot of sense for
> Topics.  A group isn't really something that you "read" from in the same
> way as a topic, so it always felt kind of weird there.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017, at 11:29, Vahid S Hashemian wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm resending my earlier note hoping it would spark some conversation
> this
> time around :)
>
> Thanks.
> --Vahid
>
>
>
>
> From:   "Vahid S Hashemian" *<vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com>*
> <vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com>
> To:     dev *<dev@kafka.apache.org>* <dev@kafka.apache.org>, "Kafka User"
>
> *<us...@kafka.apache.org>* <us...@kafka.apache.org>
>
> Date:   05/30/2017 08:33 AM
> Subject:        KIP-163: Lower the Minimum Required ACL Permission of
> OffsetFetch
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I started a new KIP to improve the minimum required ACL permissions of
> some of the APIs:
>
>
>
> *https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-163%3A+Lower+the+Minimum+Required+ACL+Permission+of+OffsetFetch*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-163%3A+Lower+the+Minimum+Required+ACL+Permission+of+OffsetFetch>
>
>
>
> The KIP is to address KAFKA-4585.
>
> Feedback and suggestions are welcome!
>
> Thanks.
> --Vahid
>
>
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