Hi team,

Are there any more votes  ? Thanks

Le 12 sept. 2017 20:18, "Gwen Shapira" <g...@confluent.io> a écrit :

> Thanks for clarifying.
>
> +1 again :)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 6:57 AM Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Gwen,
> >
> > I've had more time to look into the code. First, the OffsetStorageReader
> > JavaDoc says: "OffsetStorageReader provides access to the offset storage
> > used by sources. This can be used by connectors to determine offsets to
> > start consuming data from. This is most commonly used during
> initialization
> > of a task, but can also be used during runtime, e.g. when reconfiguring a
> > task."
> >
> > Second, this KIP allows the SourceConnector implementations to access the
> > OffsetStorageReader, but really the SourceConnector methods are *only*
> > related to lifecycle changes when using the OffsetStorageReader would be
> > appropriate per the comment above.
> >
> > In summary, I don't think there is any concern about the
> > OffsetStorageReader being used inappropriate by the SourceConnector
> > implementations.
> >
> > Randall
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Basically, you are saying that the part where the comment says: "Offset
> > > data should only be read during startup or reconfiguration of a task."
> > > is incorrect? because the API extension allows reading offset data at
> any
> > > point in the lifecycle, right?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 5:18 AM Florian Hussonnois <
> fhussonn...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Shapira,
> > > >
> > > > We only expose the OffsetStorageReader to connector which relies on
> > > > KafkaOffsetBackingStore. The store continuesly consumes offsets from
> > > kafka
> > > > so I think we can't have stale data.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 8 sept. 2017 06:13, "Randall Hauch" <rha...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > The KIP and PR expose the OffsetStorageReader, which is already
> > exposed
> > > > to
> > > > > the tasks. The OffsetStorageWriter is part of the implementation,
> but
> > > was
> > > > > not and is not exposed thru the API.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just re-read the code for the OffsetStorageWriter, and ran into
> > > this
> > > > > > comment:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Note that this only provides write functionality. This is
> > > > > > intentional to ensure stale data is
> > > > > > * never read. Offset data should only be read during startup or
> > > > > > reconfiguration of a task. By
> > > > > > * always serving those requests by reading the values from the
> > > backing
> > > > > > store, we ensure we never
> > > > > > * accidentally use stale data. (One example of how this can
> occur:
> > a
> > > > > > task is processing input
> > > > > > * partition A, writing offsets; reconfiguration causes partition
> A
> > to
> > > > > > be reassigned elsewhere;
> > > > > > * reconfiguration causes partition A to be reassigned to this
> node,
> > > > > > but now the offset data is out
> > > > > > * of date). Since these offsets are created and managed by the
> > > > > > connector itself, there's no way
> > > > > > * for the offset management layer to know which keys are "owned"
> by
> > > > > > which tasks at any given
> > > > > > * time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't figure out how the KIP avoids the stale-reads problem
> > > explained
> > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you talk me through it? I'm cancelling my vote since right
> now
> > > > > > exposing this interface sounds risky and misleading.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gwen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM Gwen Shapira <g...@confluent.io>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> +1 (binding)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Looking forward to see how connector implementations use this in
> > > > > practice
> > > > > >> :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:49 PM Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'd like to open the vote for KIP-131:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-131+-+
> > > > > Add+access+to+OffsetStorageReader+from+SourceConnector
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks to Florian for submitting the KIP and the
> implementation,
> > > and
> > > > to
> > > > > >>> everyone else that helped review.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Randall
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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