Hi Mike,

Thanks for sharing your feedbacks and the blocker features for Kafka
Streams. They are very helpful.


Guozhang


On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Mike Freyberger <mfreyber...@appnexus.com>
wrote:

> Matthias,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. For our use case, we have some complexities that
> make using the existing Streams API more complicated than using the Kafka
> Consumer directly.
>
> - We are doing async processing, which I don't think is currently
> available (KIP-311 is handling this).
>
> - Our state has a high eviction rate, so kafka compacted topics are not
> ideal for storing the changelog. The compaction cannot keep up and the
> topic will be majority tombstones when it is read on partition
> reassignment. We are using a KV store the "change log" instead.
>
> - We wanted to separate consumer threads from worker threads to maximize
> parallelization while keeping consumer TCP connections down.
>
> Ultimately, it was much simpler to use the KafkaConsumer directly rather
> than peel away a lot of what Streams API does for you. I think we should
> continue to add support for more complex use cases and processing to the
> Streams API. However, I think there will remain streaming join use cases
> that can benefit from the flexibility that comes from using the
> KafkaConsumer directly.
>
> Mike
>
> On 6/20/18, 5:08 PM, "Matthias J. Sax" <matth...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
>     Mike,
>
>     thanks a lot for the KIP. I am wondering, why Streams API cannot be
> used
>     for perform the join? Would be good to understand the advantage of
>     adding a `StickyStreamJoinAssignor` compared to using Streams API? Atm,
>     it seems to be a redundant feature to me.
>
>     -Matthias
>
>
>     On 6/20/18 1:07 PM, Mike Freyberger wrote:
>     > Hi everybody,
>     >
>     > I’ve created a proposal document for KIP-315 which outlines the
> motivation of adding a new partition assignment strategy that can used for
> streaming join use cases.
>     >
>     > It’d be great to get feedback on the overall idea and the proposed
> implementation.
>     >
>     > KIP Link: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 315%3A+Stream+Join+Sticky+Assignor
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Mike
>     >
>
>
>
>


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