I there any update on this.  The performance improvements are quite
impressive and I really would like to stop forking kafka just to get this
in.

Thanks,

Bobby

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 8:56 PM Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ismael,
>
> Oh, I forgot all of you are on working frenzy for 2.0! No problem, take
> your time. I am also working at another issue now. Thank you for letting me
> know.
>
> Best,
> Dongjin
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 11:44 PM Ismael Juma <isma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the delay Dongjin. Everyone is busy finalising 2.0.0. This KIP
> > seems like a great candidate for 2.1.0 and hopefully there will be more
> of
> > a discussion next week. :)
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, 05:17 Dongjin Lee, <dong...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello. I just updated my draft implementation:
> > >
> > > 1. Rebased to latest trunk (commit 5145d6b)
> > > 2. Apply ZStd 1.3.4
> > >
> > > You can check out the implementation from here
> > > <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/2267>. If you experience any
> > problem
> > > running it, don't hesitate to give me a mention.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Dongjin
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:50 PM Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is the short conclusion about the license problem: *We can use
> > zstd
> > > > and zstd-jni without any problem, but we need to include their
> license,
> > > > e.g., BSD license.*
> > > >
> > > > Both of BSD 2 Clause License & 3 Clause License requires to include
> the
> > > > license used, and BSD 3 Clause License requires that the name of the
> > > > contributor can't be used to endorse or promote the product. That's
> it
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> http://www.mikestratton.net/2011/12/is-bsd-license-compatible-with-apache-2-0-license/
> > > >
> > > > - They are not listed in the list of prohibited licenses
> > > > <https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x> also.
> > > >
> > > > Here is how Spark did for it
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-19112>:
> > > >
> > > > - They made a directory dedicated to the dependency license files
> > > > <https://github.com/apache/spark/tree/master/licenses> and added
> > > licenses
> > > > for Zstd
> > > > <
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/licenses/LICENSE-zstd.txt
> > >
> > > &
> > > > Zstd-jni
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/licenses/LICENSE-zstd-jni.txt>
> > > > .
> > > > - Added a link to the original license files in LICENSE.
> > > > <https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/18805/files>
> > > >
> > > > If needed, I can make a similar update.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for pointing out this problem, Viktor! Nice catch!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Dongjin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:50 PM Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I greatly appreciate your comprehensive reasoning. so: +1 for b
> until
> > > now.
> > > >>
> > > >> For the license issues, I will have a check on how the over projects
> > are
> > > >> doing and share the results.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Dongjin
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:08 PM Viktor Somogyi <
> > > viktorsomo...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Dongjin,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A couple of comments:
> > > >>> I would vote for option b. in the "backward compatibility" section.
> > My
> > > >>> reasoning for this is that users upgrading to a zstd compatible
> > version
> > > >>> won't start to use it automatically, so manual reconfiguration is
> > > >>> required.
> > > >>> Therefore an upgrade won't mess up the cluster. If not all the
> > clients
> > > >>> are
> > > >>> upgraded but just some of them and they'd start to use zstd then it
> > > would
> > > >>> cause errors in the cluster. I'd like to presume though that this
> is
> > a
> > > >>> very
> > > >>> obvious failure case and nobody should be surprised if it didn't
> > work.
> > > >>> I wouldn't choose a. as I think we should bump the fetch and
> produce
> > > >>> requests if it's a change in the message format. Moreover if some
> of
> > > the
> > > >>> producers and the brokers are upgraded but some of the consumers
> are
> > > not,
> > > >>> then we wouldn't prevent the error when the old consumer tries to
> > > consume
> > > >>> the zstd compressed messages.
> > > >>> I wouldn't choose c. either as I think binding the compression type
> > to
> > > an
> > > >>> API is not so obvious from the developer's perspective.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would also prefer to use the existing binding, however we must
> > > respect
> > > >>> the licenses:
> > > >>> "The code for these JNI bindings is licenced under 2-clause BSD
> > > license.
> > > >>> The native Zstd library is licensed under 3-clause BSD license and
> > > GPL2"
> > > >>> Based on the FAQ page
> > > >>> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
> > > >>> we may use 2- and 3-clause BSD licenses but the Apache license is
> not
> > > >>> compatible with GPL2. I'm hoping that the "3-clause BSD license and
> > > GPL2"
> > > >>> is really not an AND but an OR in this case, but I'm no lawyer,
> just
> > > >>> wanted
> > > >>> to make the point that we should watch out for licenses. :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>> Viktor
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:02 AM Ivan Babrou <ibob...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Hello,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > This is Ivan and I still very much support the fact that zstd
> > > >>> compression
> > > >>> > should be included out of the box.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Please think about the environment, you can save quite a lot of
> > > >>> hardware
> > > >>> > with it.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Thank you.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 14:14 Dongjin Lee <dong...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > Since there are no responses for a week, I decided to
> reinitiate
> > > the
> > > >>> > > discussion thread.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-110%3A+Add+Codec+for+ZStandard+Compression
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > This KIP is about to introduce ZStandard Compression into
> Apache
> > > >>> Kafka.
> > > >>> > > The reason why it is posted again has a story: It was
> originally
> > > >>> posted
> > > >>> > to
> > > >>> > > the dev mailing list more than one year ago but since it has no
> > > >>> > performance
> > > >>> > > report included, it was postponed later. But Some people
> > (including
> > > >>> Ivan)
> > > >>> > > reported excellent performance report with the draft PR, this
> > work
> > > >>> is now
> > > >>> > > reactivated.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > The updated KIP document includes some expected problems and
> > their
> > > >>> > > candidate alternatives. Please have a look when you are free,
> and
> > > >>> give
> > > >>> > me a
> > > >>> > > feedback. All kinds of participating are welcome.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Best,
> > > >>> > > Dongjin
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > --
> > > >>> > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > *github:  <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> > > >>> > > <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>linkedin:
> > > >>> > kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
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> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >> --
> > > >> *Dongjin Lee*
> > > >>
> > > >> *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > >>
> > > >> *github:  <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> > > >> <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>linkedin:
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> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > > >
> > > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > > >
> > > > *github:  <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> > > > <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>linkedin:
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Dongjin Lee*
> > >
> > > *A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.*
> > >
> > > *github:  <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> > > <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>linkedin:
> > kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
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> > >
> >
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