KIP 321 has passed.

Here is the vote break down:

Binding:

   - Matthias J. Sax
   - Guozhang Wong
   - Ewen Cheslack-Postava

Non-Binding:

   - Ted Yu
   - Bill Bejeck
   - Damian Guy

Thanks to all those who voted and provided feedback!

Best,
Nishanth Pradeep

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:42 PM Matthias J. Sax <matth...@confluent.io>
wrote:

> I agree with Guozhang.
>
> Breaking compatibility is not acceptable.
>
> If we want the change to use `Optional`, we should deprecate the current
> method and explain that it return type will change in next major release
> 3.0.0 and create a ticket for this change that we can tackle when time
> comes.
>
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 8/2/18 9:10 AM, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> > I think leaving the current return value to be null-able is okay, as long
> > as it is well documented in java doc.
> >
> >
> > Guozhang
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:13 AM, Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You have 3 binding votes, so i'll defer to the others.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 04:41 Nishanth Pradeep <nishanth...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The only issue I see with this is that Sink#topic would also need to be
> >>> Optional as was pointed out already. Since Sink#topic is a preexisting
> >>> method, changing its return type would break backwards compatibility.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, it might be worth it to rip that bandaid now.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Nishanth Pradeep
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:56 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For source node, only one of `Set<topics> topicsSet` and `TopicPattern
> >>>> topicPattern()` will be specified by the user. Similarly for sink
> node,
> >>>> only one of `String` and `TopicNameExtractor` will be specified by the
> >>>> user. Although I've not seen Nishanth's updated PR, I think when it is
> >> not
> >>>> specified today we will return null in that case.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we want to improve on this situation with Optional, we'd need to do
> >> it
> >>>> on all of these functions. Also note that for `Source#toString()` and
> >>>> `Sink#toString()` we should only include the specified field in the
> >>>> resulted representation.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Guozhang
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:08 AM, Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ewen - no as I don't believe they are never null. Whereas the
> >>>>> topicNameExtractor method returns null if it is the default extractor
> >> or
> >>>>> the extractor. So i think this would be better to be optional as it
> is
> >>>>> optionally returning a TopicNameExtractor
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 23:01 Ewen Cheslack-Postava <
> e...@confluent.io
> >>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Generally +1 (binding)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would be helpful to just provide the full, updated interfaces in
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> KIP and mark things as new with comments if needed. I had to go back
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> read the discussion thread to make sure I was understanding the
> >> intent
> >>>>>> correctly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Damian -- if we make that Optional, shouldn't the methods on Source
> >>>> also
> >>>>>> be Optional types?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Ewen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:13 PM Damian Guy <damian....@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Nishanth,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have one nit on the KIP. I think the topicNameExtractor method
> >>>> should
> >>>>>>> return Optional<TopicNameExtractor> rather than null.
> >>>>>>> Sorry I'm late here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Damian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 01:14 Nishanth Pradeep <
> >> nishanth...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We need one more binding vote.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Binding Votes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    - Matthias J. Sax
> >>>>>>>>    - Guozhang Wong
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Community Votes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    - Bill Bejeck
> >>>>>>>>    - Ted Yu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>> Nishanth Pradeep
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:02 AM Bill Bejeck <bbej...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the KIP!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Bill
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:39 AM Guozhang Wang <
> >>>> wangg...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Matthias J. Sax <
> >>>>>>>> matth...@confluent.io
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/18 7:47 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:24 PM Nishanth Pradeep <
> >>>>>>>>>> nishanth...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm calling a vote for KIP-321:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> >>>>> 321%3A+Update+
> >>>>>>>>>>> TopologyDescription+to+better+represent+Source+and+Sink+
> >> Nodes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nishanth Pradeep
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> -- Guozhang
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> -- Guozhang
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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