Well I am talking about an end user library which has utility methods so people can use that in their Karaf commands / plugins.
The irony is that Karaf is all about modularity. So would it not be possible to offer a neutral Karaf library that people can use on both 2.x and 3.0. I assume the table and other util methods is mostly about string manipulation and to make commands output nicely in Karaf. And thus its not deeply tied to te Karaf container runtime version. So it ought to run on both 2.x and 3.x. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > Hi Claus, > > From a feature perspective, of course it's cool ;) > > But more we merge new feature on Karaf 2.2.x, more we postpone Karaf 3.0.0, > as users won't update to Karaf 3.0.0. > > From a technical perspective, I'm fully agree with you, table rendering is > interesting (whatever the Karaf version is). > From a "promotional" perspective, I think it's not a good idea. > > Regards > JB > > > On 04/05/2012 07:14 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<j...@nanthrax.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Reuben, >>> >>> We have an implementation of the console table available. >>> >>> You can take a look: >>> >>> ./shell/console/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/shell/console/table >>> >>> but it's only available on trunk for now (so in the next Karaf 3.0.0). >>> >>> I don't think it's a good idea to merge on Karaf 2.2.x, as we decided to >>> focus on 3.0.0. >>> >> >> Why is that not a good idea? >> People will use Karaf 2.x for a long time, and the commands is a very >> cool part of Karaf. >> And having a nice layout of the outputs of the command is great. >> >> And it also encourages end users to contribute custom commands and >> whatnot, if its easy to do that with Karaf. Java is not really good at >> String manipulation out of the box. So many people have to create >> their own libraries and whatnot. >> >> Maybe provide the table as part of end user plugin API for developing >> Karaf commands. >> As well with other util methods people may need for writing Karaf >> commands. >> >> >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> >>> On 04/05/2012 05:14 PM, Reuben Garrett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> i'm working on patching Camel's Karaf commands to print more nicely >>>> (columns aligned regardless of a field's length) [1]. unfortunately, my >>>> first attempt's implementation was a little too heavy, and would benefit >>>> from code reuse. >>>> >>>> i recently observed a JIRA [2] which suggests that Karaf may have >>>> builtin >>>> support for printing tables to the console. i'm searching the source >>>> for >>>> examples, but haven't found anything yet. does karaf have a builtin >>>> table >>>> printer, or if not, can you recommend a 3rd-party library for this >>>> purpose? i'm not sure if this is relevant or feasible, but to me this >>>> would seem like a nice OSGi service for the container to provide. >>>> >>>> >>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4931 >>>> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1281 >>>> >>>> ~ Reuben >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >>> jbono...@apache.org >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> >> >> > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbono...@apache.org > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- CamelOne 2012 Conference, May 15-16, 2012: http://camelone.com FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
