Hi Serge, one note about the spring idea ... right now spring isn't a nice osgi citizen anymore. So I fear Karaf will get blamed for Spring issues around Spring running inside OSGi. That's why I would keep away from that.
regards, Achim 2015-11-12 10:32 GMT+01:00 Serge Huber <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > > On 12 nov. 2015, at 07:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing. > > > > I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool, > but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing. > > Yes Karaf is clearly one of the hidden gems of the ASF, and if marketing > it properly can make it more visible and people understand it’s value > better, everybody wins. > > > > > Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we > deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step > forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and know > the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas. > > Yes, and at the same time positioning Karaf as compatible with lots of > technologies would help. For example tell everyone that they can realize > their projects in Karaf that use Spring technologies would be helpful, not > making them have to choose between Karaf or Spring, but rather just use > Karaf as the runtime and build on top of it using Spring librairies. Of > course this requires that we provide features for all of these. > > > > > In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose > the following plan: > > > > 1. More professional website > > I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the > website. > > In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The > fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end users > (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain that Karaf > is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with karaf-boot, it > becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm platform. > > So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more > professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message): > > > > http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/ > > Looks really good, there are a few images that have resizing issues but > that’s a detail. One message I also repeat often about Karaf is that it’s > the basic runtime you would end up with if you started a project from > scratch, so why not use that as a start instead of re-implementing it. > > Also, at JavaOne Oracle was talking about Jigsaw a lot, so maybe we can > capitalize on this by saying that this is a module system that is proven > and future-ready. I like the enterprise positioning, clearly in opposition > of not-yet-ready-for-production platforms such as docker or in some regards > Spring-boot :) > > > > > I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the > home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea. > > > > 2. New guides/documentation > > I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation. > Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing recipes > for users. > > All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output > on the Decanter guide: > > > > http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html > > > > All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using > such look'n feel. > > Looks good but it would be fantastic if it was also responsive so that it > can be used on tablets and or phablets :) > > > > > 3. Meetups > > I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some > sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and > enthusiasts. > > I will give you more details soon. > > Sounds fantastic. If you need help with the sponsoring I could try to talk > to people here. > > > > > Thoughts ? > > Love the approach, the old website really needed revamping, and this is > definitely a great step forward ! > > cheers, > Serge… -- Apache Member Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer & Project Lead blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
