Hi JB

>>>
What you bring is right but users may have different standpoint: lot of
people just wants to use decanter as a blackbox solution with
elasticsearch and kibana embedded.
>>>
I understand this point but we should at least mention in the documentation 
that it's not the recommended approach to emebed an elasticsearch node within a 
JVM.

Thanks
Oli
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Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
Gesendet: Montag, 4. April 2016 09:34
An: dev@karaf.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Feedback for Canceling Decanter 1.1.0

Hi Oli,

The vote will stand Wednesday.

What you bring is right but users may have different standpoint: lot of
people just wants to use decanter as a blackbox solution with
elasticsearch and kibana embedded.

So, even if your need is different, we have to address both.

Kibana 4.5 is not a viable solution as it's related to node.js: Decanter
Kibana is not a standard Kibana version: I changed to remove node.js and
use pure HTML/js client frontend.

Regards
JB

On 04/04/2016 08:58 AM, Oliver Wulff wrote:
> Hi there
>
>
> I'd like to give some feedback regarding the discussion in the vote for 
> Decanter 1.1.0.
>
>
> It's a nice feature to install kibana and the elasticsearch node within the 
> same JVM as Karaf, but really only for demo purposes. Elastic doesn't 
> recommend and support to bundle elasticsearch node within another JVM. 
> Further, elastic recommends to run elasticsearch node isolated on a dedicated 
> machine (!) where even nothing else is running to benefit of the low level 
> features used by elasticsearch.
>
>
> https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup-configuration.html
>
> [https://www.elastic.co/static/img/elastic-logo-200.png]<https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup-configuration.html>
>
> Configuration - 
> Elastic<https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup-configuration.html>
> www.elastic.co
> Environment Variablesedit. Within the scripts, Elasticsearch comes with built 
> in JAVA_OPTS passed to the JVM started. The most important setting for that 
> is the -Xmx ...
>
>
> Same applies for Kibana 4 dashboards. Usually, you have an elasticsearch 
> cluster and server hosting the kibana application.
>
>
> What I wanted to say is that whether kibana 4 works in Karaf or not is not 
> really relevant for a production deployment.
>
>
> Finally, yes, we were very keen on the release 1.1.0 as it brings kafka with 
> SSL support. We successfully tested this already with the snapshot version.
>
>
> Do you have a rough idea when the next vote is planned?
>
>
> I'd recommend to use Kibana 4.5 as it brings support for custom labels and 
> colour customization (already in 4.4). The pre-condition is ES 2.3.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Oli
>
>

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