Hi,

generally speaking, Karaf only distinguish "user space bundles" (start
level >= 80) from "system space bundles" (start level < 80).

The system bundles start level depends of the bundles in
etc/startup.properties and boot features. It's not really Karaf related
(only for the Karaf inner features).

In your case, as you are using Configurator with the JSON dep, I would
consider Configurator bundle as system bundle (I would say started at
same level as ConfigAdmin) and JSON P any start level before the
Configurator.

So, concretely, I would do SPI Fly 30, Johnzon Core 31 and Configurator
31 for the start level.

In Karaf 4.3.x, you will have Configurator as part of the config feature.

Regards
JB

On 09/08/2019 16:49, Markus Rathgeb wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> after starting to use the configurator
> (https://osgi.org/specification/osgi.cmpn/7.0.0/service.configurator.html)
> I created a Karaf feature, so I can use my bundles in Karaf, too.
> 
> Here is just a snapshot of a working one:
> https://github.com/maggu2810/playground-osgi/blob/5a7629e/features/runtime/src/main/feature/feature.xml
> 
> org.apache.felix/org.apache.felix.configurator/1.0.10 needs an
> JSON-P_1.1 (JSR-353) implementation.
> This is provided e.g. by johnzon-core.
> 
> The implementation is accessed by the service loader (SPI), so I used
> org.apache.aries.spifly/org.apache.aries.spifly.dynamic.bundle/1.2.3
> 
> The JSON-P implementation needs to be provided by the service loader
> as soon as the configurator is started.
> What's your intention (I assume you will add such a feature to Karaf
> 4.3) about the start-levels?
> 
> Is there an official guideline about the choose (e.g. 5, 20, 30, ...)
> of start-level and how Karaf defines it in its official features?
> 
> SPI Fly uses 30 in the official Karaf features.
> We could use > 30 for the configurator and ensure Johnzon Core also
> uses =30 or what's your suggestion?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Markus
> 

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