Yes exactly what I meant. On Thu., Oct. 10, 2019, 11:39 p.m. Krzysztof Sobkowiak, < krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi > > Do you mean a Karaf feature prviding the Quarkus libraries (like the > Spring or Hibernate feaures)? > > Best regards > Krzysztof > > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:25 -0400, Patrique Legault wrote: > > Hello Romain, > > > > Let me just start by saying I probably should have done more research on > > Quarkus before sending off this email. > > > > In my mind when I think of Karaf, I think of a service that allows > > developers to simply install a feature into the service and gives them > > access to a framework that they can then develop against. For instance, > > installing a version of hibernate, spring, etc...into the Karaf service. > > > > When I saw the Quarkus framework, I thought of a potential opportunity > for > > Karaf to provide another framework for developers to use. That being said > > if this is something that Karaf already exposes through various other > > libraries then there is nothing to do. > > > > Next time though I will definitely do some more research prior to a > > proposition. > > > > Cheers, > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:10 AM Jamie G. <jamie.goody...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure the the ask entails here. > > > > > > Why does it need to be integrated into Karaf? Can Quarkus just publish > > > a feature which Karaf users could install in the usual manner? > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:34 AM Romain Manni-Bucau > > > <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Patrique, > > > > > > > > I have to admit I'm not following, Quarkus is mainly a microprofile > based > > > > server integrated with GraalVM in the IBM/Redhat ecosystem to build > > > > natively a HTTP app (for k8s). > > > > It also supports a JVM mode but then it is like any CDI/JAXRS server. > > > > In this last mode Karaf is already very competitive so I guess it is > not > > > > the target and in the first mode the current challenge of Graal for > Karaf > > > > (OSGi actually) is that it does not support classloading (and > conflicting > > > > API in the same application). > > > > > > > > Concretely my point is that Karaf already supports Tomcat and Jetty > (and > > > > undertow i think) through pax-web and jersey/cxf so it already has a > > > "lean > > > > and efficient Java server". Add all the recent work about > > > containerization > > > > (static resolver, docker mojo etc) and you can couple it with > "container > > > > first framework". > > > > > > > > Finally, still relying on the JVM enable to Karaf to be more > reliable at > > > > runtime that Quarkus in native mode which still has a poor GC > > > > implementation (it will be enhanced but they are not yet there). > > > > > > > > All that to say I'm not sure the outcome you expect of such a task, > can > > > you > > > > refine it a bit maybe? > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > > > > < > > > > https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance > > > > > > > > > > > > Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 15:54, Patrique Legault < > > > patriquelega...@gmail.com> > > > > a écrit : > > > > > > > > > There is a new framework released by Red Hat called Quarkus, see > > > > > https://quarkus.io/, it is designed/built for containerization . > > > > > > > > > > If integrated within Karaf, we could create a feature that would > > > install > > > > > the Quarkus framework within Karaf. This would allow for a lean and > > > > > efficient Java server with a container first framework embedded > within > > > it. > > > > > Allowing for quick and easy RESTful services development with a low > > > memory > > > > > footprint and quick container runtime. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think, and if this is worth logging a ticket > for. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *Patrique Legault* > > > > > > > > > > -- > Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect > Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/) > Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/) > Apache OpenWhisk PMC Member (https://openwhisk.apache.org/) > Apache Incubator PMC Member (https://incubator.apache.org/) > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC ( > http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/) > >
