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-------- Message d'origine --------De : Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com> Date : 14/11/2019 17:41 (GMT+01:00) À : dev
<dev@karaf.apache.org> Objet : Re: [PR/DISCUSS] Interceptor module? +1Le jeu.
14 nov. 2019 à 16:06, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> aécrit :> It
sounds good to me ;)>> Regards> JB>> On 14/11/2019 15:53, Loven, Hans CTR (FAA)
wrote:> > "Karaf Greffer" to keep with the plant theme?> >> > H> >> >
-----Original Message-----> > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>> >
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:50 AM> > To: dev@karaf.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: [PR/DISCUSS] Interceptor module?> >> > Good point ;) And I agree.>
>> > Let's find another name ;)> >> > Regards> > JB> >> > On 14/11/2019 15:46,
Loven, Hans CTR (FAA) wrote:> >> Respectfully,> >>> >> Karaf Secateur _sounds_
like a great name for something, but I think it> is contrary to what this does.
Secateurs are pruning shears. Unless I> have missed something, this project
adds annotation-based interceptor> capability. That seems the opposite of
pruning, imho.> >>> >>> >> Cheers,> >> Hans> >>> >> -----Original Message----->
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>> >> Sent: Thursday, November
14, 2019 6:38 AM> >> To: dev@karaf.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [PR/DISCUSS]
Interceptor module?> >>> >> I think we have two options:> >>> >> 1. Explicit
name: Karaf IoC> >> 2. Fancy name: Karaf Secateur> >>> >> Either way is fine
for me ;)> >>> >> Regards> >> JB> >>> >> On 14/11/2019 13:32, Christian
Schneider wrote:> >>> In that case I am fine with the ioc name.> >>>> >>>
Christian> >>>> >>> Am Do., 14. Nov. 2019 um 13:17 Uhr schrieb Romain
Manni-Bucau <> >>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:> >>>> >>>> Im fine whatever works
the most.> >>>>> >>>> Ioc proposal comes from the hope to fill the gap between
spring/CDI> >>>> and OSGi ecosystem without going directly to osgi-cdi which
has some> >>>> pitfalls for cdi guys.> >>>> Interceptors were just the first
step but it can be more after so> >>>> having interceptor in the name sounded
limited to me.> >>>> Hope it clarifies where Im coming from.> >>>>> >>>> Le
jeu. 14 nov. 2019 à 13:05, Christian Schneider> >>>> <ch...@die-schneider.net>
>>>>>> >>>> a écrit :> >>>>> >>>>> Sounds good .. for the name I propose
karaf-interceptor.> >>>>> The name karaf-ioc ( I guess it should mean inversion
of control)> >>>>> does> >>>> not> >>>>> seem to match well what it does.>
>>>>>> >>>>> Christian> >>>>>> >>>>> Am Do., 14. Nov. 2019 um 12:51 Uhr schrieb
Jean-Baptiste Onofré <> >>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>:> >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree, my
point is that technically possible.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> And also agree to create a
karaf-ioc repo (it takes me 2 minutes> ;)).> >>>>>>> >>>>>> We can start a
formal vote about that. Let's just wait Romain's> >>>> feedback.> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards> >>>>>> JB> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On 14/11/2019 12:44, Christian
Schneider wrote:> >>>>>>> Of course it technically works but it would be the
only case in> >>>>>>> the> >>>>> karaf> >>>>>>> main repo. It would confuse
people a lot. I think we should not> >>>>>>> start> >>>>>> this.> >>>>>>>
Creating a new karaf repo is no big issue.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christian>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Do., 14. Nov. 2019 um 11:54 Uhr schrieb Jean-Baptiste
Onofré <> >>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>:> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi,> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can be released in its own cycle in the main repo.> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For instance, ServiceMix Bundles are on an unique git repo, but>
>>>>>>>> I do release of each independently from the others.> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we can start like this.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards> >>>>>>>>
JB> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 14/11/2019 11:09, Christian Schneider wrote:>
>>>>>>>>> The fact that it evolves a lot at the start is even another> >>>>
argument> >>>>> to> >>>>>>>>> keep it out of the karaf main repo as there you
can only> >>>>>>>>> release> >>>>>> together> >>>>>>>>> with karaf.> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think in the end it is your decision - either a new karaf>
>>>>>>>>> repo (I> >>>>> can> >>>>>>>>> create it for you) or a new aries repo
(again I can create it)> >>>>>>>>> or> >>>> the> >>>>>>>> aries> >>>>>>>>> main
repo. So all options should be pretty quick to do.> >>>>>>>>> (Of course if you
decide for aries we need an approval from the> >>>>>>>>> pmc> >>>>> of>
>>>>>>>>> aries but I guess that is rather a formality as most are also>
>>>>>>>>> in> >>>> this> >>>>>>>> list> >>>>>>>>> and would have objected if
they did not want it at aries).> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christian> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 13. Nov. 2019 um 09:39 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <>
>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I kind of share the
fact code will likely be stable - that> >>>>>>>>>> said,> >>>>>>>> depending>
>>>>>>>>>> the adoption it can evolve quite a lot for ~1 year I think>
>>>>>>>>>> (adding> >>>>>>>> method> >>>>>>>>>> binding support is the one I
have in mind if the module works> >>>> great> >>>>>>>> without> >>>>>>>>>> this
feature).> >>>>>>>>>> Where I'm a bit less "easy" is cause karaf has jms, jpa,
jdbc> >>>>>>>>>> etc> >>>>>>>> modules> >>>>>>>>>> so it sounds it is on the
same plan to me, no?> >>>>>>>>>> That said, once again any home will be fine
for me while it> >>>>>>>>>> exists> >>>>> ;)> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 13
nov. 2019 à 09:29, Christian Schneider <> >>>>>>>> ch...@die-schneider.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a écrit :> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would not put the
new code into an existing Aries subproject.> >>>>>> Instead> >>>>>>>>>> we>
>>>>>>>>>>> could add a new one.> >>>>>>>>>>> Either in its own git repo or in
the shared one (depends on> >>>>>>>>>>> how> >>>> we> >>>>>> want> >>>>>>>>>>
to> >>>>>>>>>>> release).> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Romain .. do you plan to
version by bundle or the whole> >>>>> interceptor> >>>>>>>>>>> subproject?>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you plan to release by bundle then the aries main git>
>>>>>>>>>>> would> >>>> be a> >>>>>>>> great> >>>>>>>>>>> fit as the modules
there are released in the same fashion.> >>>>>>>>>>> If you plan to always
release the whole interceptor tree then> >>>>>>>>>>> a> >>>> new> >>>>>> git>
>>>>>>>>>>> repo in aries or karaf would work great.> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
The karaf main repo would be a bad choice as I think the> >>>>> interceptor>
>>>>>>>> code> >>>>>>>>>>> will be quite stable after some time while karaf
will always> >>>>>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>> changing.> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
Christian> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am Di., 12. Nov. 2019 um 11:23 Uhr schrieb
Romain Manni-Bucau> >>>>>>>>>>> <> >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Updated the code, last changes are mainly:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. moving the module in the right parent (I put it
in> >>>>>>>>>>>> service> >>>>>> instead> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>>>>
service*s* originally)> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. added an E2E test using pax-exam 3.
make it work :)> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I added a doc page ([1]) to try to
share more what it tries> >>>>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>> achieve.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> About aries, the proxy module looks almost 100% bound to> >>>>
blueprint> >>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>>>> didn't see it as an option but I don't have
a really strong> >>>>> blocker> >>>>>>>>>>> there,> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll fully
trust the OSGi@apache community on that.> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/993/files#diff-6aaf055d932f602b> >>>>
0> >>>> 6135e6446ee6c2eR15> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog> >>>>>>>>>>>>
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <> >>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn> >>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book <> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-perf> >>>> o>
>>>> rmance> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12
nov. 2019 à 08:15, Grzegorz Grzybek <> >>>>>> gr.grzy...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>
a> >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pon., 11 lis 2019 o 20:45 Christian Schneider <> >>>>>>>>>>
ch...@die-schneider.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał(a):>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great to hear that you already considered
aspecio.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we want to put this into apache then I rather
would> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest> >>>>>>>>>> Apache> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix, Apache
Aries or a Karaf submodule.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
IMO it'd fit more into Apache Aries Proxy.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
regards> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The interceptor support is a small standalone module that> >>>>
should> >>>>>>>>>> have> >>>>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own lifecycle.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting it in the main karaf tree would mean it is>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released> >>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> every> >>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mo., 11. Nov. 2019 um 20:38 Uhr schrieb
Romain> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manni-Bucau> >>>> <> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
rmannibu...@gmail.com>:> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Christian yes and no.
Ray pointed out aspecio to me but> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I> >>>> had> >>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>>> few> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. it brings its own stack - and yes I care
about each> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single> >>>>> dep> >>>>>>>>>>> my> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
app> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brings cause, a) network usage the size can implies with>
>>>> modern> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployments, b) security vulnerabilities the stack
can> hide.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. it is not at asf or asf influenced (as part of>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codehaus> >>>>>>>>>> projects> >>>>>>>>>>>> had>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been in early times for exapple) with all it implies in>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms> >>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governance> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
legal quality.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. the API is reinvented compared to the final
step of my> >>>>>>>>>> proposal> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
aligned on the standard. Current version of code> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is>
>>>>>>>>>> almost> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aligned> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on interceptor API
(you just sed the package for the> >>>> mainstream> >>>>>>>>>>>> usage)>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the consumer side is a bit different, I
must refine it to> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>>>> closer> >>>>>>>>>>>> to>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDI> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it is just a matter of handling RUNTIME
interceptor> >>>>>>>>>> annotations> >>>>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
using @Interceptors as a component property type of> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type>
>>>>>>>>>>> boolean> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a value holder
which breaks interceptor simplicity.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. it is a one guy github
project (even if code quality> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is> >>>> not> >>>>>>>>>> bad)>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you can reliably
use in a professional project> >>>>>>>>>> (<joke>we> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code in javascript ;)</joke>) 5. no commit since > 1 year?>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it clarifies a bit how I ended up on that
proposal.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book <> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-perf> >>>> o>
>>>> rmance> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le lun. 11 nov. 2019 à 20:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <>
>>>>>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Romain,> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sounds great to me ! Thanks for that.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, you did well in terms of modules organization: it> >>>>
makes> >>>>>>>>>>>> sense> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have interceptor
in service (like staticcm).> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the use
case, it makes sense as well. I will take> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a> >>>>>>>>>>
deeper> >>>>>>>>>>>> look> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again !> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2019 19:37,
Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I took some time this week-end to draft an interceptor> >>>>
module> >>>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to
describe it in the related PR ([1]) - in WIP> >>>> mode> >>>>>>>>>> so>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jump> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on me yet cause
tests are not there please ;).> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> High
level, I missed a lot interceptors (from javax.)> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when>
>>>>>>>>>>>> starting> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCR.> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It mainly change the way to add
transversal features> >>>>>>>>>> (metrics,> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security,>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracing, circuit-breaker, asynchronism to cite a few).>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still have some API refinement to do but
high level> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service to be marked as intercepted ([2]) and implement>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interceptors> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "as> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual" ([3])
and link them with a marker (in the PoC it> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is> >>>> an>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annotation).> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is in
very early stages but before investing way> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more> >>>>>>>>>>
time,> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if it sounds like a module Karaf could host and>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than me or if it is an "EE guy" idea ;).> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wdyt?> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/993> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/993/files#diff-5edc34da45232dc1> >>>>
2> >>>> a96cae52e620adcR22> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/993/files#diff-412d137df581cff1> >>>> 9>
>>>> 38e723692a1ec45R24> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain
Manni-Bucau> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |
Blog> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-perf> >>>> o>
>>>> rmance> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
jbono...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend -
http://www.talend.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
Schneider> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Scientist> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>>> Christian Schneider> >>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.liquid-reality.de> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Scientist>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré> >>>>>>>>
jbono...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net> >>>>>>>> Talend -
http://www.talend.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --> >>>>>>
Jean-Baptiste Onofré> >>>>>> jbono...@apache.org> >>>>>>
http://blog.nanthrax.net> >>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> --> >>>>> --> >>>>> Christian Schneider> >>>>>
http://www.liquid-reality.de> >>>>>> >>>>> Computer Scientist> >>>>>
http://www.adobe.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> --> >> Jean-Baptiste
Onofré> >> jbono...@apache.org> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net> >> Talend -
http://www.talend.com> >>> >> > --> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré> >
jbono...@apache.org> > http://blog.nanthrax.net> > Talend -
http://www.talend.com> >>> --> Jean-Baptiste Onofré> jbono...@apache.org>
http://blog.nanthrax.net> Talend - http://www.talend.com>
