You mean including Karaf 4.3.x or just 4.2.x ?

> Le 8 janv. 2021 à 08:16, Daniel Las <daniel....@empirica.io> a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It looks like some kind of backward incompatible change introduced within 
> patch version change. I personally would like to keep auto refresh "on" by 
> default as this is expected/desired behavior for me.
> 
> Regards
> 
> pt., 8 sty 2021 o 07:31 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net 
> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> napisał(a):
> Hi everyone,
> 
> We got several user feedback, complaining about unexpected and cascaded 
> (unrelated) refresh while installing features.
> 
> As reminder, a refresh can happen when:
> - bundle A imports package foo:1 and a bundle provides newer foo package 
> version. In that case, the features service will refresh A to use the newest 
> package version.
> - bundle A has an optional import to package foo and a bundle provides this 
> package. In that case, the features service will refresh A to actually use 
> the import as it’s a "resolved" optional.
> - bundle A is wired to bundle B (from a package perspective or requirement) 
> and B is refreshed. In that case, the features service will refresh A as B is 
> itself refreshed (for the previous reasons for instance). This can cause 
> "cascading" refresh.
> 
> A refresh means that a bundle can be restarted (if the bundle contains an 
> activator or similar (DS component, blueprint bundle)).
> 
> In this PR https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/1287 
> <https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/1287>, I propose to introduce a new 
> property autoRefresh in etc/org.apache.karaf.features.cfg to disable the auto 
> refresh by the features service (and let the user decides when he wants to 
> trigger refresh with bundle:refresh command for instance).
> I propose to keep autoRefresh=true on 4.2.x and turn autoRefresh=false on 
> 4.3.x.
> 
> Thoughts ?
> 
> On the other hand (and to prepare the "path" to Karaf5), I have created a new 
> "simple features service" (PR will be open soon) that:
> 
> - just take the features definition in order (ignoring start level)
> - ignore requirement/capability (no resolver)
> - no auto refresh
> 
> Basically, if you have the following feature definition:
> 
> <feature name="foo" version="1.0">
>   <feature>bar</feature>
>  <bundle>A</bundle>
>  <bundle>B</bundle>
> </feature>
> 
> The features service will fully install/start bar feature first, then bundle 
> A, then bundle B.
> To use this "simple features services, you just have to replace 
> org.apache.karaf.features.core by org.apache.karaf.features.simple bundle in 
> etc/startup.properties (or custom distribution).
> 
> It’s similar to the Karaf 5 extension behavior (I will share complete details 
> about Karaf 5 and its concepts (module, extension, …) very soon, but that’s 
> another thread ;)).
> 
> The big advantages of this approach is:
> - predictable/deterministic provisioning (if it works fine, it works again)
> - faster deployment (I estimated the gain to about 70%)
> 
> Thoughts ?
> 
> If you agree, I will move forward on both tasks.
> 
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
> 
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Łaś
> CTO at Empirica S.A.
> +48 695 616181

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