Yes, after some delay because of quarkus 3 migration. Im refining this
draft PR
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/pull/1941

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 5:48 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:

> Any update or new findings on this topic?
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:38 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex,
> > After considering different options to improve performance, we feel that
> it
> > is time to "partially" move away from the current Map style interface (
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-apps/blob/main/persistence-commons/persistence-commons-api/src/main/java/org/kie/kogito/persistence/api/Storage.java
> )
> > which was shared with Trusty, to one more suitable for usage with a
> > relational DB like postgresql (but still compatible with big table dbs).
> > The idea will be to replace generic Storage interface by four specific
> > interfaces (which will inherit from a common one that keeps the query
> part
> > at is it. with get and query methods), that will include the required
> > modification operations for the four DataIndex "domains":
> processinstance,
> > usertask, processdefinitions and jobs. Those interfaces will define
> methods
> > like addNode, addVariable, updateTask, addAttachment..... that will allow
> > the persistent layer implementation  to just update the needed info in
> the
> > DB  (for example, for addNode in Postgres, just insert a row into nodes
> > table, for addNode in Mongo, basically the same atomic upsert operation
> > that is currently done). Therefore, we increase performance for Postgres
> > and keep the current one for Mongo. The current DB schemas won't be
> > touched.
> > Since the code change is large, I do not think I'll be able to have the
> PR
> > ready till next week.
> > But before starting, please let me know if that approach is fine for you.
> > Best regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 6:55 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Francisco to getting deeper on this…
> > >
> > > Looking forward to see the results of your suggested improvements.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 9:40 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I forgot to attach the queries
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:04 PM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> A brief update on this topic.
> > > >> After doing a simple test with example
> > > >>
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/tree/stable/serverless-workflow-examples/serverless-workflow-data-index-quarkus
> > > ,
> > > >> the number of updates over Nodes table is n*n, so we manage to
> obtain a
> > > >> perfect quadratic performance degradation. The problem is worse in
> the
> > > case
> > > >> of Serverless Workflow than in BPMN because we the number of nodes
> is
> > > >> greater than the number of states. In that example N is 16, but for
> a
> > > more
> > > >> complex workflow it would be certainly large.
> > > >> I think that this is more related to how we are handling JPA in the
> > > code,
> > > >> in particular the mapping from model to entity (basically JPA is
> blind
> > > and
> > > >> has to update all nodes for every write because it believes the
> node has
> > > >> been updated, although it is not) than an issue in the table
> definition.
> > > >> In fact, when using JPA, separating the server model from the JPA
> > > entity is
> > > >> not a good idea, especially if the entity contains collections. I
> will
> > > try
> > > >> to change that without breaking anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:10 PM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
> > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> After the events split you now will need to create a node instance
> > > >>> model instance of making independent from the process instance.
> > > >>> That should do the trick.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regarding deleting/inserting it was fixed at some point.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> El mar, 21 nov 2023 a las 20:22, Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti
> > > >>> (<[email protected]>) escribió:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Hi Martin,
> > > >>> > I have a task to review performance of
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > ProcessInstanceNodeDataEventMerger
> > > >>> > My idea is to reduce the number of delete inserts when processing
> > > >>> events
> > > >>> > and try to do it incremental.
> > > >>> > That should improve performance.
> > > >>> > PS:
> > > >>> > I was planning to send an e-mail tomorrow announcing that in
> case you
> > > >>> were
> > > >>> > already working on a fix for that. I assume you are not and I
> would
> > > be
> > > >>> > sending a PR soon.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 6:09 PM Martin Weiler
> > > <[email protected]
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > I looked into the new examples using data-index persistence
> addon -
> > > >>> Neus'
> > > >>> > > PR#1813 [1] for serverless and Pere's branch [2] for workflow
> > > (great
> > > >>> job
> > > >>> > > both!) - and they work without issues using single requests.
> > > >>> However, under
> > > >>> > > some load (I used 'ab' for testing with a light concurrency of
> 10
> > > >>> parallel
> > > >>> > > requests) I ran into the following problems:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > (1) Large number of insert/delete calls (eg. for tables such as
> > > >>> nodes,
> > > >>> > > definitions, etc)
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > (2) Hibernate OptimisticLockExceptions / StaleStateExceptions
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > (3) DB deadlocks
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > (4) Error responses, slow response times
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > The reason I am reaching out with this topic here is to find
> out if
> > > >>> we are
> > > >>> > > aware of this issue, and if someone is already looking into or
> > > being
> > > >>> > > assigned to it?
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Thanks,
> > > >>> > > Martin
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > [1]
> > > >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1813
> > > >>> > > [2]
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> https://github.com/pefernan/kogito-examples/tree/example_data-index_persistence
> > > >>> > >
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