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Just wanted to add a few notes about Apache project naming:

- From the ASF side, we don't need a final name until a project graduates. So there's no hurry to choose from trademarks@ or other perspectives - although it's great to see the community energy interested in this!

- It is definitely up to the community to come up with the name you want for your project and product. Once you get settled into incubation, trademarks@ can provide more feedback on the podling name search, if indeed any other feedback is needed - Knox may well be fine.

- While it's up to the community to drive things and decide on the name, detailed discussions about the application of specific trademark policies about project names should happen on the privately archived trademarks@ (and podling private@) mailing lists, not on dev@.

- Shane

P.S. I like the idea of Hadrian and the elephant inside a wall!

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