On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Kevin Minder wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Lets see, this is all just a symptom of me learning the ropes here and > transitioning into the open development mode. So let me address each point I > believed was raised so that I get concrete feedback about how to improve and > proceed.
No worries. That's what incubation if for, to learn. When you have questions feel free to send them to this list and we mentors should be all over them. > > 1. Snapshot upload > > I certainly understand the "second class" citizen concern here and I was > concerned about it myself. At the time I thought my only option was a > private email about the upload. I thought that was worse that discussing it > publically. Ideally I would expect these type of frequent snapshot > distributions to be built via CI. We don't have that setup yet. I will file > a Jira for that but given the information I received in the general@incubator > thread this seemed like it could take awhile. In the meantime I like Alan's > suggestion of uploading to apache.org/~kminder. I'll do that and send > another email. > > 2. Release vote > > We want to avoid co-development at all costs too but at the same time we > still need to make progresss, name and cut "unofficial releases" to evaluate > both at Hortonworks and also to court potential community members. What > should we be calling these to stay within the rules? I specifically left the > SNAPSHOT in everything as an attempt. I expect that there is still > significant work that needs to be done to create something that will pass > legal for an official Apache release. I have more work to do to understand > exactly what needs to be in the LICENSE and NOTICE files at a minimum. When > that was done I was planning on asking about calling for a vote. If I understand correctly your goal here is not a release (at least not yet), but rather to produce shared snapshots for people. If that's correct, then putting it on people.apache.org and calling it something that doesn't have RC in the name is fine. In Apache speak RC means something people are going to vote on to release. Just call it knox-0.2.0-SNAPSHOT. That's what I've seen most projects do for their maven nightly uploads. > > 3. v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1 > > We had all of our history from the GitHub repository imported into the Apache > Git repo where we have continued working. Therefore there are existing tags > for the v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1 so I thought it made the most sense to continue > on. I do acknowledge in hindsight that this is something that should have > been discussed. Version numbers don't matter and the first release of Knox can certainly be 0.2 if that fits with where the code's at. > > 3. Co-development > > There is no active private repository for this. Everything is being > committed to the Apache git repo at this point. Larry and I in particular > need to find the right balance between high bandwidth brain storming (e.g. > face:face, IM, phone) and email discussions on dev@knox. > > 4. Jira > > Devarj filed INFRA-5922 on March 1st to have Jira setup. I would much rather > be using the Apache Jira so anything that can be done to speed that up would > be appreciated. I'll take the reference to the Hortonworks Jira out of the > docs and I guess we will just have to keep track of any issues discovered in > email. I'll come up with some email subject convention (e.g. [BUG]) > > Continued feedback appreciated. > Kevin. Alan. > > On 3/20/13 5:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> Hey Guys, >> >> RE: #3, after looking at it in more detail, we need to remove references >> to internal Hortonworks JIRA's in our Apache documentation. I realize >> Hortonworks >> people have their own company systems, etc. Those should not be confused >> with their Apache (!Hortonworks) counterparts. >> >> Do we have an Apache Knox JIRA? If not, I would be glad to request one. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> >> On 3/20/13 2:46 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kevin, >>> >>> I'm not sure what this email means, but I'm worried by its context. >>> >>> Are you suggesting that you have released a version of Apache Knox, with >>> a version # 0.2.0? >>> >>> If so, then I have the following statements/questions: >>> >>> 1. Apache releases are VOTEd on by the Apache Knox PPMC and by the Apache >>> Incubator PMC >>> (whose VOTEs are the binding ones in this process atm). Unless I missed >>> it, >>> I didn't see a VOTE thread, so I'm not sure how you released Apache Knox. >>> See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html >>> Small note: where is RC1? >>> >>> 2. It looks like there is development occurring internally at Hortonworks >>> here. >>> Why? Co-developing wastes community resources. All of you guys here that >>> are interested >>> in the project should be developing here. Of course there are naming >>> issues, etc., >>> associated with this, but more importantly there are community issues. So >>> I request >>> clarification on this. >>> >>> 3. Great job on the documentation! >>> >>> Looking forward to the clarifications. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> On 3/20/13 2:35 PM, "Kevin Minder" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> I decided to cut and share v0.2.0 RC2 of the gateway. I tagged the repo >>>> with v0.2.0-rc2. >>>> >>>> For those in Hortonworks I uploaded a ZIP here >>>> https://docs.google.com/a/hortonworks.com/file/d/0BzcmnaxIHtiAZkxhQWZCQ21 >>>> y >>>> WTA/edit >>>> >>>> Everyone else should be able to create their own following these >>>> instructions. >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/release-process.html >>>> >>>> The Apache site is starting to come along. >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/ >>>> >>>> Of particular interest are the links in the Documentation section of the >>>> left Nav bar. >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/getting-started.html >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/examples.html >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/client.html >>>> http://knox.incubator.apache.org/sandbox.html >>>> >>>> I wrote and reorganized a bunch of documentation over the last few days >>>> and I haven't "tested" all of it yet. So there may need to be some >>>> tweaks there and an RC3. Functionally however the more eyes the better >>>> so give it a spin. We are especially interested in feedback. >>>> >>>> Kevin. >
