The experimental mode is system wide feature toggle. I think case by case
is more flexible. Most new features could have toggles, default are off.

2016-12-19 21:40 GMT+08:00 Luke Han <[email protected]>:

> Beta or Experimental will also bring confusing for most of users.
>
> Maybe we could have something called "expert" or "experimental" model in
> system configuration.
>
> User will not see such content since they will be hidden by default but
> admin could set it to true if they confident to enable such features.
>
> How do you think?
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Xiaoyu Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I’m sorry for too long not maintain it!
> >
> > I agree with liyang to give a label to the RAW measure “Beta” or others.
> >
> > I will improve it when I have time!
> >
> > 2016-12-19 10:21 GMT+08:00 Li Yang <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > Or display the Raw with "Beta" or "Experimental" to warn user that it
> is
> > > not a mature feature?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM, 康凯森 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1.
> > > > But the "RAW" measure is still some useful, we could improve it next
> > year
> > > > when we have time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
> > > > 发件人: "ShaoFeng Shi";<[email protected]>;
> > > > 发送时间: 2016年12月15日(星期四) 中午12:05
> > > > 收件人: "dev"<[email protected]>;
> > > >
> > > > 主题: [Discuss] Disable/hide "RAW" measure in Kylin web GUI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello developers and users,
> > > >
> > > > I have a proposal want to disucss here, which is about the "RAW"
> > measure
> > > in
> > > > Kylin.
> > > >
> > > > The RAW measure was developed to solve the requirement for getting
> raw
> > > data
> > > > when user drill down from high level to low levels. It's performance
> > > would
> > > > be much better than fetching from source like Hive, so some users
> like
> > > it.
> > > > This blog introduces it:
> > > > https://kylin.apache.org/blog/2016/05/29/raw-measure-in-kylin/
> > > >
> > > > While it has some limitations:
> > > > 1) always use dictionary encoding, which means it couldn't support
> UHC;
> > > > since raw columns usually be transaction IDs, numbers, etc, the
> > building
> > > > cost is much higher than ordinary dimensions;
> > > > 2) the raw messages for a dimension combination are persisted in one
> > big
> > > > cell,; When too many rows dumped in one cell, will get BufferOverflow
> > > > error. This couldn't be predicted, so for an modeler or analyst he
> > > doesn't
> > > > know whether this feature could work when he creates the cube.
> > > > 3) seems no people maintains it;
> > > >
> > > > Based on above, I propose hiding this measure on Web GUI by default,
> so
> > > > avoiding confusing user; If someone hear and want to use this, he
> still
> > > can
> > > > enable it by simply set in kylin.properties.
> > > >
> > > > Any input is welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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