Hi Xiaoxiang,

I would like to provide information about computed column error in
attachment file. Kindly help so that I can query computed_column.

Thank you

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 9:58 AM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi, for the first question,you don't provide any detail for analysis,
> please send me your query diagnostic package which includes your metadata,
> query, and logs.
>
> For the second question, I am not sure at the moment.
>
>
> ------------------------
> With warm regard
> Xiaoxiang Yu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 10:33 AM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Xiaoxiang for the guideline. Will definitely read it carefully.
>> Kindly help the following questions:
>>
>> 1. Computed column
>>
>> I created a “computed column” and add it to dimensions (among other
>> dimensions)
>>
>> When I use query to select the computed column it returned error
>>
>> 2. Datatype optimization: will you think that the int be better than
>> string
>> for key join columns?
>>
>> Please advise
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 17:32 Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, that is almost correct.
>> >
>> > If you have a lot of complex queries, and you want to using Kylin 5 to
>> > accelerate them, the recommended steps of mine are as follows:
>> >
>> > 1. You analyse all queries and collect all join relation/pattern.
>> > 2. You create Models for each specific join relation/pattern, with the
>> join
>> > relation you find in above step.
>> > 3. You analyse and collect dimensions and measures from all queries, and
>> > add them to the corresponding Model.
>> > 4. You build segments of all Models with proper data range.
>> > 5. You turned off the pushdown switch, and sent all queries to Kylin. If
>> > there are some queries which failed, fix them.
>> >     Here are some common situations.
>> >     5.1 Join relation/pattern is not matched
>> >     5.2 If the join relation is matched, the Model might not contain
>> every
>> > column that your query needs, please check kylin.query.log with keyword
>> '
>> > unmatched'.
>> > 6. (Optional) If you find some of your queries do not exactly match with
>> > your Index(your query on [colA, colB], but your index contains more
>> columns
>> > than colA and colB), you can add some aggregate groups(or smaller Table
>> > Index) to optimize the query performance.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------
>> > With warm regard
>> > Xiaoxiang Yu
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:57 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thank you Xiaoxiang, I nearly got to the point.
>> > >
>> > > So can I interpret that: 1 model equal (~) to a set of Joins of
>> > (Dim/Fact)
>> > > table, that is to say we need to create several models according to
>> > > multiple kinds of joins queries?
>> > >
>> > > Best regards
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 4:50 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Have you ever tried to analyse the reason why your query can not hit
>> > >> Model 'sample_ssb'?
>> > >> It is because the join relation of your query is not suitable for the
>> > >> join relation/pattern of  Model 'sample_ssb'.
>> > >>
>> > >> Your query used a join relation/pattern like: A inner join B.
>> > >> But the Model 'sample_ssb' used a join relation/pattern like : A
>> inner
>> > >> join B inner join C.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you are familiar with the definition of Inner join, you may know
>> that
>> > >> the
>> > >> relation/pattern 'A inner join B inner join C' will have a chance
>> > >> to lose some rows when compared to pattern 'A inner join B'.
>> > >> So the Model 'sample_ssb' will be excluded to serve your query.
>> > >>
>> > >> That is to say, you need to create a new model that is similar to
>> Model
>> > >> 'sample_ssb',
>> > >>  but with additional tables removed.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------
>> > >> With warm regard
>> > >> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:21 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn.invalid>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Xiaoxiang,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thank you very much
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have clearer picture of Kylin already thanks to your explanation.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Now back to the sample project of SSB in attached photo, when I run
>> > this
>> > >>> query with push_down option OFF, why the OLAP error appears, and in
>> > such
>> > >>> case, how to create a new cube for this query?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> [image: image.png]
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:49 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Here is some of my explanation and it may not be perfect.
>> > >>>> Segment in Kylin is part of model/cube pre-computed data, in most
>> > >>>> cases, divided by date column.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Here is some difference between Segment and Snapshot.
>> > >>>> Segment, whose source data comes from one fact table joins some
>> > dimension
>> > >>>> tables with 'specific date range', is 'precomputed', and will
>> > accelerate
>> > >>>> complex query.
>> > >>>> Snapshot, whose source data comes from one specific dimension table
>> > without
>> > >>>> specific date range, is "not precomputed", and can join with
>> segments
>> > >>>> at runtime .
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> - https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/snapshot/snapshot_management
>> > >>>> -
>> > >>>>
>> >
>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/modeling/load_data/segment_operation_settings/intro
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Thank you again, very smart of you to automatically select cube
>> for a
>> > >>>>> certain query. Sorry If I ask too much: Is the concept of Segment
>> in
>> > Kylin
>> > >>>>> model similar to Slice-and-Dice concept of Cube, what is the
>> > different
>> > >>>>> between Kylin Segment and Kylin Snapshot?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> PS. I sent you the log files for your help in investigating why my
>> > >>>>> cube has not been used.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:36 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I guess there is a misunderstanding from your sentences.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> -- 'I need to select Cube from a combo box below the query
>> window'
>> > >>>>>> It is not right to use 'need', that combo box is for some
>> specific
>> > >>>>>> cases(for example, Kylin did not choose a cube which is the most
>> > >>>>>> efficient), not the most cases.
>> > >>>>>> In most cases(both for Kylin 4 and Kylin 5), you don't need to
>> > select
>> > >>>>>> a Cube in the combo box, Kylin will do the choice for you.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:24 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn.invalid
>> >
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Hi Xiaoxiang, sorry if I made you confused (Anyway, it is just a
>> > >>>>>>> question of a beginner)
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> "obviously" means "clearly"
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> because I need to select Cube from a combo box below the query
>> > window
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thank you very much
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:20 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> From my side, I cannot understand why you say Kylin 4 is 'very
>> > >>>>>>>> obviously'. Can you give an example?
>> > >>>>>>>> From the source code, the basic logic of choosing the right
>> > >>>>>>>> cube/model are similar.
>> > >>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>>>>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>>>>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:01 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind reply, please answer 1 more question
>> > about
>> > >>>>>>>>> version 5:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> In version 4.x we run query against a Cube very obviously,
>> but in
>> > >>>>>>>>> version 5, the cube usage is a implication socan you advise:
>> for
>> > a given
>> > >>>>>>>>> query, which model will be used, which index (cube) will be
>> used
>> > for this
>> > >>>>>>>>> query?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 1:42 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1. How do I measure the size of the index (cube) in version
>> 5?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>    You can check storage of specific Indexes from the Index
>> > page.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/modeling/model_design/aggregation_group#view-aggregate-index
>> > >>>>>>>>>> or
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/assets/images/index_1-6ad3f55183d4ed61962359d9408ba192.png
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2. How to create the cardinality for each column?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>    You should check this link :
>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/datasource/data_sampling/
>> .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> 3. In your default project sample named SSB project, you have
>> > >>>>>>>>>> only 4 simple aggregate group index and no table index as in
>> > attached file
>> > >>>>>>>>>> so what is the best strategy to select index for our OLAP?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>     1. There does exist a 'Base Table Index'  by default
>> > >>>>>>>>>> actually, its id is 20000000001.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>     2. I think it is a good question and Kylin 5 lacks such a
>> > >>>>>>>>>> guide for better modeling. You are free to ask your question
>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>> mailing list and I will try to reply.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>>>>>>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:12 PM Xiaoxiang Yu <x...@apache.org
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> OK, I didn't read all the mail history so I misunderstand
>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> situation. Looks like you need to analyse
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the cause why the query didn't hit the cube correctly.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Please generate query diagnosis package and send it to me
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> privately. I will analyse the query log.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You can refer to the following steps in screenshots.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If the screenshots are not displaying correctly, please read
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> this guide :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/operations/system-operation/diagnosis/#generate-query-diagnosis-package-in-web-ui
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> By the way, you need to analyse the cause by reading
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> kylin.query.log, not the kylin.log,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> refer to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://kylin.apache.org/5.0/docs/operations/logs/system_log
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Xiaoxiang for your advice. As my title email
>> shown,
>> > I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> guessed that the OLAP functionalities has not been
>> correctly
>> > set up in my
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The evidence about it is that: when I disable the Pushdown
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> option box to use solely the precomputation cube only, it
>> > showed following
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> error: Please kindly advise how to properly build the OLAP
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> LIMIT 500": No realization found for OLAPContext,
>> > MODEL_UNMATCHED_JOIN,
>> > rel#2240:KapTableScan.OLAP.[](table=[VNEVENT_HIVE_DWH_400MILLION_ROWS,
>> > FACTUSEREVENT],ctx=0@null,fields=[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11,
>> > 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20])
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:40 AM Xiaoxiang Yu <
>> x...@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yesterday, I tried to see if query pushdown functions
>> > work
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well in the Kylin5 docker, and all of my queries return
>> > proper responses .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     After checking your logs from Shaofeng, I found these
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> error messages repeated many times:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     1. 'java.io.IOException: All datanodes
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> DatanodeInfoWithStorage[127.0.0.1:9866
>> > ,DS-5093899b-06c7-4386-95d5-6fc271d92b52,DISK]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are bad. Aborting...'
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     2. 'curator.ConnectionState : Connection timed out for
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> connection string (localhost:2181) and timeout (15000) /
>> > elapsed (41794)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.curator.CuratorConnectionLossException:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> KeeperErrorCode = ConnectionLoss'
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     I guess the root cause is that the container didn't
>> not
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have enough resources. I found you query on a table called
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'XXX_hive_dwh_400million_rows', looks like you gave a
>> > complex query on a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> table which contains 400 million rows?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Since I am the uploader of kylin5 's docker image, I
>> want
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to give some explainment. Kylin5 docker is not a place for
>> > performance
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> benchmarks, it is only for demonstration. It is only
>> > allocated with very
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> little resources(8G memory) if you are using the default
>> > command from
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> docker hub page. Before I uploaded my image, I only tested
>> > my image using
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ssb dataset, which the biggest table only contains
>> about
>> > 60k rows. If
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are using a larger dataset and complexer queries, you
>> > have to scale the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> resource properly. Try querying tables which contain not
>> > more than 100k
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rows by default.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Here are some tips which may help you to check if the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> daemon service is in health status and
>> > resources(particularly disk space)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is configured properly.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     1. Checking HDFS 's web ui(
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://localhost:9870/dfshealth.html#tab-datanode ) to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm whether HDFS service is in 'In service' status.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     2. Checking Datanode 's log in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > `/opt/hadoop-3.2.1/logs/hadoop-root-datanode-Kylin5-Machine.log`, check
>> if
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there is any error message. Like: cat
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > /opt/hadoop-3.2.1/logs/hadoop-root-datanode-Kylin5-Machine.log | grep
>> ERROR
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | wc -l
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     3. Checking if your docker engine is configured with
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> enough disk space, if you are using Docker Desktop like
>> > me,please go to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Settings" - "Resources" - "Advanced", make sure you have
>> > allocated 40GB+
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disk space to the docker container.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     4. Checking the available disk space of your
>> container by
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> `df -h`, make sure the 'Use%' of 'overlay' is less than
>> 60% .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>     5. Checking the load average/ cpu usage/ jvm gc. Make
>> > sure
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> these metrics are not really high when you send a query.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> With warm regard
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Xiaoxiang Yu
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 5:13 PM Nam Đỗ Duy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <na...@vnpay.vn.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi ShaoFeng
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your valuable feedback
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw the application to be there (if I see it right) as
>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the attachment photo. Kindly advise so that I can run
>> this
>> > query on OLAP.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS. I sent you the log file in private.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:11 PM ShaoFeng Shi <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaofeng...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide the messages in logs/kylin.log when
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> executing the SQL? and you can also check the Spark UI
>> > from yarn resource
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager (there should be one running application called
>> > Spardar, which is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kylin's backend spark application). If the application
>> is
>> > not there, it may
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicates the yarn doesn't have resource to startup it.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Kylin PMC,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Incubator PMC,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Kylin FAQ:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kylin.apache.org/docs/gettingstarted/faq.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Join Kylin user mail group:
>> > user-subscr...@kylin.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Join Kylin dev mail group:
>> dev-subscr...@kylin.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nam Đỗ Duy <na...@vnpay.vn> 于2023年10月31日周二 10:35写道:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir/Madam,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a fact with 500million rows then I build model,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> index according to the website help.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I chose full incremental because this is the first
>> times I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load data
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create both index types Aggregate group index, table
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> index as photo attached.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the query always failed after timeout of 300
>> seconds
>> > (I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run in docker), I dont want to increase the value of
>> 300
>> > seconds because I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish the OLAP can run within 1 minutes (is that
>> possible?)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that the OLAP function in indexing not
>> working to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speedup the query by precomputed cube.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you advise to check whether the index did really
>> work?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is quite urgent task for me so prompt response is
>> > highly
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>>
>

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