+1 We appreciate all inputs to the project; it is you let us knowing how
we’re doing and what we need to improve; Thanks very much for your
feedback!

On 9/22/15, 8:46 AM, "Ted Dunning" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Good questions never need apologies.
>
>Yours was an excellent question and could only be (vaguely) criticized as
>not being in its own thread.
>
>Good on you for participating!
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> Apology not necessary. Your question raises a common misconception about
>> graduation. As you know Apache values “community over code”, and the
>> graduation criteria are basically “is the community healthy?” and places
>> virtually no constraints on the code (beyond a commitment to IP
>>hygiene).
>>
>> Your point about portability across Hadoop distributions is very valid.
>>I
>> think you should log a jira case and post the URL on this list. I expect
>> the Kylin community will take it seriously ― before or after graduation.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Roland Bouman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Ted,
>> >
>> > thanks for the reply.
>> >
>> >> But that notwithstanding, do you think that documentation is a
>> > requirement for graduation from incubation as top-level project?
>> >
>> > I think I spoke too early - my remark was based on a personal
>>assumption
>> > and not founded in the guidelines.
>> >
>> > I apologise for the distraction and will take care to check my
>> assumptions
>> > in the future.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Roland.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Roland,
>> >>
>> >> Documentation is definitely a good thing for a project to work on and
>> your
>> >> highlighting of the need for installation instructions for a wider
>> range of
>> >> environments tallies nicely with goal CD30 on the Apache project
>> maturity
>> >> goals [1].
>> >>
>> >> But that notwithstanding, do you think that documentation is a
>> requirement
>> >> for graduation from incubation as top-level project?
>> >>
>> >> It seems to me that it is not described as such on the graduation
>> >> guidelines [2] and that the goal of incubation is for the project to
>> learn
>> >> how to make Apache releases, not so much to finish the software or
>> >> documentation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> 
>>https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.htm
>>l
>> >>
>> >> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Roland Bouman
>><[email protected]
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Personally I believe that before graduation, there should be
>>reliable
>> >>> documentation that explains how to install Kylin on top of stock
>>apache
>> >>> hadoop components (not "hdp" or some other distro), with an account
>>of
>> >>> which versions of which required components are compatible with
>>which
>> >>> version of kylin.
>> >>>
>> >>> my 2cts.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Xiaoyu Wang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Now Kylin is very stable,and running for a long time in my
>> environment.
>> >>>> I think it's time to graduate!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 在 2015年09月21日 09:05, [email protected] 写道:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> agree,we had benefited a lot from kylin!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 中国移动广东有限公司 网管中心 梁猛
>> >>>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>  From: Luke Han
>> >>>>> Date: 2015-09-20 21:30
>> >>>>> To: [email protected]
>> >>>>> Subject: About Kylin graduation
>> >>>>> Hi community,
>> >>>>>     We would like to raise this discussion about graduate Apache
>> >> Kylin
>> >>> to
>> >>>>> be
>> >>>>> TLP (top level project).
>> >>>>>       As discussion between PMC members, we are thinking it's
>>already
>> >>> to
>> >>>>> process graduation process, but we also would like to hear more
>> >> feedback
>> >>>>> from entire Kylin community.
>> >>>>>       Please feel free to leave your comments here.
>> >>>>>       Thank you very much.
>> >>>>>  See the policy [1] and guidelines [2].
>> >>>>>    [1] 
>>http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>> >>>>>  [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Roland Bouman
>> >>> blog: http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/
>> >>> twitter: @rolandbouman
>> >>> linkedin: 
>>http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5142800&trk=tab_pro
>> >>>
>> >>> Author of "Pentaho Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-48432-6
>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/lvxa88) and "Pentaho Kettle Solutions" (Wiley,
>> ISBN:
>> >>> 978-0-470-63517-9 http://tinyurl.com/33r7a8m)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roland Bouman
>> > blog: http://rpbouman.blogspot.com/
>> > twitter: @rolandbouman
>> > linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5142800&trk=tab_pro
>> >
>> > Author of "Pentaho Solutions" (Wiley, ISBN: 978-0-470-48432-6
>> > http://tinyurl.com/lvxa88) and "Pentaho Kettle Solutions" (Wiley,
>>ISBN:
>> > 978-0-470-63517-9 http://tinyurl.com/33r7a8m)
>>
>>

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