On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 22:35 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
> > we now have the means to use lenya (on our zone) to feed our 
> > documentation. i think we should do some experiments as to how we 
> > could eat our own dogfood to create the docs for the site.
> 
> 
> sure
> 
> >
> > there are lots of nice bells and whistles, but i would like us to get 
> > started with something simple and then extend the solution as we use 
> > it more and more.
> 
> 
> we just have to write a xdoc based publication which has the same 
> site-structure as
> Forrest and then export it statically into SVN, whereas the xdocs should 
> also be added
> to SVN
> 

+1

Would be 
lenya-xdocs-pub (live)->docu-svn (xdocs) [trunk]
lenya.apache.org->Build from docu-svn in site-svn [trunk]

> >
> > as you may have noted elsewhere, this currently a hot topic both on 
> > the cocoon project, and overall. the asf has resurrected the site-dev 
> > list to coordinate requirements, and there is a common site-build zone 
> > that we may end up using for staging and deployment. i have attached 
> > one of the key emails from that list below.
> >
> > i am not yet totally clear how this will all work together, but we 
> > should definitely get started as soon as possible (keeping in mind 
> > that we now have two community members, solprovider and jon, who 
> > regularly write useful documentation)
> >
> > WDYT?
> 
[...]
> we could start such a publication within the sandbox and based on 1.4-dev
> which would hopefully help to stabilize 1.

+1

salu2
thorsten

> Michi
> 
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: mission
> > Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:12:44 +1000
> > From: David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I suppose that we should first clarify our purpose,
> > then send an email to pmcs@ asking for people to help
> > from the beginning and so enable ownership.
> >
> > There was a recent flurry of discussion on infrastructure@
> > when Noel suggested we finally have the machinery to establish
> > a site build and staging server. ...
> >
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> >
> >> Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> >>
> >> > I don't see the need for a zone dedicated to creating the apache.org
> >> > sites.  Why can't each PMC have their own zone and create their
> >> > site in it however they want to do it?
> >>
> >> We need a single place for infrastructure to restore from if we have a
> >> problem, right?  And we are trying to move away from having to keep huge
> >> quantities of generated artifacts in source control just for the 
> >> purpose of
> >> restoring the web-site.
> >>
> >> So the primary goals are:
> >>
> >>   - have a means to build all of the web sites from source control
> >>   - provide for human review of the staged content
> >>   - push the approved content to a publishing area
> >>   - have the live web servers sync from the publishing area
> >>
> >> So, we reduce the need for shell accounts related to publishing, 
> >> remove the
> >> need to keep generated sites in source control, improve disaster 
> >> recovery.
> >>
> >>       --- Noel
> >
> >
> > This has been discussed many times before on infrastructure.
> > I tried to summarise some of the needs at one stage.
> > http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/proposal-asf-publish.html
> > Here is the first paragraph ...
> >
> > All ASF projects need to be able to concentrate on their projects
> > and the content of their websites, rather than get tangled up in
> > arcane website publication procedures.
> >
> > I presume that we need a site-build.zones.apache.org
> > where we would run the various documentation tools, e.g.
> > Maven, Forrest, Anakia, Ant, etc. There is also the web interface
> > for the Forrestbot which enables project committers to trigger
> > their build and review logfiles. It would need Tomcat.
> >
> > Add to that mechanisms to generate javadoc and other code docs.
> >
> > Without going into details too much, are those our aims?
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
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> Michael Wechner
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