J. Wolfgang Kaltz wrote:
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:

(...)

(a) Lenya should focus on JCR only. It is OK to implement core
    functionality which absolutely relies on JCR features.


(...)
- Is this sufficient? Can we require people to implement JCR
  to access custom repositories?


What is meant here with access to custom repositories ? If it's integrating external sources, that IMO has no effect on Lenya/JCR: if you want the CMS to manage that source, it's no longer external and it would instead need to be imported.

I share this opinion. But, to quote Michi:


>> But - do we really want to allow editing a Forrest site?

> sure. No offense, but if Lenya isn't able to do this, then Lenya is
> pretty useless. If Lenya doesn't allow building a Forrest publication,
> then I think we have totally missed the goal of providing a Content Management
> Framework

IIUC he means that Lenya should be able to edit external content directly.
Please correct me if I got this wrong.


If instead you want data managed elsewhere to be displayed within a publication, this also wouldn't be affected by Lenya switching to JCR
So IMO this question is not applicable


- Is Jackrabbit stable enough to act as the default Lenya
  repository implementation?


I agree that's a valid concern. I guess, from the community perspective, we have to try :) An alternative scenario is to base Lenya's content handling on the JCR API anyway (meaning, a Lenya node becomes a JCR node etc.) and for storage have our content mapped one-to-one onto files, as it is now.

Does this mean that we provide our own stripped-down JCR implementation?


If these concerns are not considered weighty, we should start to
re-design the Lenya repository layer. IMO it makes sense to use
a Wiki page to collect random thoughts and to refine them gradually.

Of course a meeting (brainstorming day) would be great. Maybe all
involved people want to visit Zurich? :)


I'd be interested in that. I'm coming to Zurich anyway on a personal matter Sept. 24-25, so let me be the first to propose a date ;)
How about monday, Sept. 26th ?

+1, if my boss agrees :)

-- Andreas



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