Hi! I'm rather new to Lenya (played with it for two days) and I must say
it looks excellent (very much in principle, perhaps less when it comes
to stableness but that's how it is...).
What I'm missing, and planning to provide myself, is good WYSIWYG
image/photo support (Mozilla only). My primary goal will of course be
getting the site I am working on up but I'll gladly contribute/integrate
it with Lenya at some point, if people want it and and if I manage to
pull it off.
I already have the image editor itself (from the shattered pieces of the
CMS I'm now running away from). Basically it works around wrapping an
uploaded photo in some SVG, and modifying that SVG to provide crop and
rotation.
Now the editor itself isn't the main point (just use GIMP etc.), however
even with external editing there are improvments that can be done:
- Moving images around in the current editors integrated in Lenya
doesn't work very well.
- Uploading fixed images is by nature resolution-dependant etc. Ideally,
I think one could aim for uploading something at a high resolution, and
use SVG to shrink it to fit naturally in the current page, perhaps
depending on "target page width".
What I'm thinking might be my approach follows. I might be a bit
far-fetched as my first Lenya-related project but I'd like to scetch it
out and perhaps recieve comments on it.
1) Have a look at integrating Mozile first, since it seems more active
and cleaner than BXE at the moment, and version 0.8 does everything BXE
does from what I can tell (ie, BXE merely adds a layer to earlier
versions of Mozile that in 0.8 is featured in Mozile itself). This is
probably valuable work in itself?
2) Introduce SVG markup in documents than want to use the editor (add
the needed SVG subset to XHTML types etc). Photos used by the SVG must
be added as assets as now, but the SVG itself stays in the document.
(Though I suppose an SVG sub-asset with linking is also possible). (In
effect, SVG will simply act as a more powerful <img> tag - in addition
to width/height there's rotation, cropping etc.).
3) Introduce transforms to turn one xhtml+svg doc into one xhtml+<img>
and several JPGs.
4) Add an image editor to the Mozile or BXE page editors. When editing
the page, the SVG should pass through to Mozilla and be modified as part
of the DOM. Image handling is very badly supported in either of these,
but the great thing about Mozile is that it modifies the DOM directly
and very cleanly, so I can introduce another editor handling the images
alongside it and they will cooperate (almost without knowing about each
other). (The main image editor will be in a sub-popup window like in BXE
today, but moving and dragging the image around is also important).
My questions, then:
- Anything been done about 1) already? Why/why not?
- General comments welcome.
- If there's anyone beyond myself that's interested in this plan (or
parts of it, like 1)) then it would be great to have somebody to ask
stupid questions along the way (mostly "in what file would I find..."
and other Lenya-related stuff - I have experience with
Cocoon/XSLT/JavaScript etc) that would be great. (Also, how open is this
mailing list and the IRC channel in general to "stupid questions"? I can
always figure things out if I use an hour, but that's one hour less
spent doing actual work).
- I'd want to work against 1.4. However the version in the SVN trunk
seems to break on a daily basis. Is there a "more stable" version I can
use (and stick to) without going all the way back to 1.2? Whatever I
manage to do probably shouldn't be part of 1.4 anyway so...
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Dag Sverre Seljebotn
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