Andreas Hartmann wrote:
Joern Nettingsmeier schrieb:
imo, with a complex beast like lenya it's no easier to install a binary
package than it is to build it yourself. hence, shouldn't we just ask
users to pull from svn by default and only offer source tarballs as an
extra courtesy? this might help to lower our users' entrance barrier
towards development code, normal users could more easily create svn
diffs, and we would save work. plus the user experience would improve,
since svn builds get daily testing by all developers, whereas packages
tend to be build and forgotten...
IMO we shouldn't change our release procedure. For many users,
downloading is much easier than checking out from SVN.
We shouldn't underestimate the clear signal of a downloadable tarball:
"Here's something we tested, not some random development version".
well, a version tagged as RC is *not* a random development version.
I can imagine that many people won't give Lenya a try unless this
statement is made.
you certainly have a point, and for many open-source projects, a
"one-click install" package makes a lot of sense: it's easy for users,
allows for quick testing, and gives confidence in the maturity of the
product.
but with a complex servlet engine like lenya, i think things are different:
* getting it to run at all requires some java knowledge (classpaths,
version problems etc.)
* lenya is a server application, so we can assume our users (who will be
*admins* of a server deployment) have slightly more expertise and less
fear of technical issues than your usual end-users.
* getting binary java packages to run is sometimes harder than building
them yourself - or at least problems with your local environment are
often easier to spot during building.
hence, i think binary packages are not worth the hassle.
therefore, if users get in touch with the source anyway, i think it's a
small step to using an svn client once a year.
for users who have already done that, creating a useful patch is an even
smaller step :)
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