On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:14 +0100, [email protected]
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Florent André <[email protected]> schrieb am 13.03.2009
> 11:07:53:
> 
>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:44:06 +0100,
> [email protected]
>> wrote:
>> > Jann Forrer <[email protected]> schrieb am 13.03.2009 08:44:12:
>> >
>> >> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> >> > Hi Lenya devs,
>> >> >
>> >> > some modules from the 2.0.2 branch look like they weren't
maintained
>> >> > for quite some time. If noone objects, I'd suggest to remove them
>> >> > –
>> >> > mainly to avoid wrong anticipations and to keep the codebase clean.
> If
>> >> > someone uses them, they can still get them from old releases.
>> >> >
>> > I agree to remove them from the branch to keep the codebase handy and
>> > clean.
>> >
>> > Since a new user or dev interested in one of these modules
>> > for his own development won't find them in an old release,
>> > I would prefer to move them to an other location outside the branch.
>> > What about a new svn branch like contributions as Thorsten proposed
>> > earlier during the modules discussion ?
>>
>> If I can add, my "user view" to this discussion,
>>
>> I'm +10 with the Rudolf idea, with a personal add : If this branch is
set
>> up, a little word on this branch in the "official download page" will be
>> great.
>>
>> I think that this new branch is very important in order to "show the
> power
>> of Lenya" : for example, blog module is IMO and important end-user
> function
>> and this module have to be "easy download".
> 
> Andre thanks very much for your feedback.
> Yes I also think that end user functions showing the power of lenya are
> very import for the future of lenya.
> We have a great system with ingenious concepts but "nobody knows it" !
> (correct me: only a few people).
> 
> If you try to tell people never heard from cocoon and xsl about the
> advantages of lenya you'll probably  fail.
> And even a professional software developer never heard from xslt won't
> understand.
> 
> So we have to show things that people can understand !
+10 I'm totally agree with this, and IMO understanding thinks is a really
important step because after that Lenya/cocoon can bring this things to be
end-user innovative and useful (because core concept is excellent)

> The Design Contest Jürgen is organizing is IMO the first important step
> in this direction. Jürgen thanks very much for your work !

Yes, "plastic" is also a very important face for end-user. Also great thank
to Jürgen. I'm impatient to see the result !

> 
> Additonally we need example modules and publications (like cocoon) to
show
> the power of lenya.
> A contribution branch seems to me a good solution.
> I also like Thorsten's idea having a page showing the status of the
> components very much,
> because people can see which contibutions are useable.

I also think to a think like that before...
Actually, module's folders have a module.xml file (in module/config). So I
think :

* Add some tags like : <todo>,
<changes>,<improvement>,<howtouse>,<roadmap>, and other essential thinks to
have a "dev status" of a module
* Dev can update this file and push it in the svn
* Official site have a modulestatus module : 
** this module browse the svn branch repository and create/update module's
pages on Lenya site.

Such a think could be simple for dev : they just have to use their "lovely"
code editor, and very cool for end-user : all possible modules are
accessible with one "finger on the mouse" and with no "technical"
questions.

Just an idea...

++

> 
> WDYT
> 
> Rudolf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> PS: thanks for the work on 2.2 branch
>>
>> HAND
>>
>> > This could also be the place for useful add-on contributions like
> exmaple
>> > publications
>> > or modules, which have to be maintained by the users.
>> > (e.g. the publications from the design contest)
>> >
>> > Rudolf
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Some candidates (feel free to add more):
>> >> >
>> >> > * blog
>> >> > * migration (lacks documentation, could be moved to sandbox?)
>> >> > * simplesite
>> >> > * xopus
>> >> > * task (legacy)
>> >> > * jcrsource (optional)
>> >> >
>> >> > WDYT?
>> >> I am relly not very experienced in the 2.0.2 branch but I like
>> >> spring cleaning ;-) Anyway, from my side: no objection.
>> >>
>> >> Jann
>> >>
>>
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