Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
Hi everyone,
you might have noticed (e.g. via the blog post [1] which gained a lot
of publicity) that the future of Java is very uncertain. Maybe the
next version won't be an open standard anymore.
I think we should seriously consider migrating to another platform.
With all respect, but this seems to me a very paranoid suggestion.
There are a lot of Java based applications and very big companies are
using these applications and you might also
want to consider
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123735970806267921.html
and last but not least there is
http://harmony.apache.org/
I am not saying that there won't be any problems in the future, but I
don't think there is any reason to panic
I'm sure there must be good reasons that most CMS's are written in PHP
anyway.
yes, there are good reasons. PHP provides a fast learning curve and
everyone thinks another CMS is needed, but that doesn't mean anything at
all!
There are some quite powerful frameworks (Zend, PEAR) to implement
complex web applications. Combined with a mature JavaScript library
like Dojo or YUI we could create a productive system in an acceptable
timeframe. I think moving to PHP would also help to increase the
potential user base.
Bullshit!!! The problems which Lenya has, has nothing to do with Java
and I think this is a very bad excuse of yourself to get people into
starting something from scratch.
The main reasons I have started Yanel and use it today successfully (and
not using Lenya anymore) are
- backwards compatibility/upgradeability
- scalability/performance
I have tried to convince this community many times re these core
principles, and some people nodded friendly, but didn't take it
seriously, so I gave up after many, many discussions
With Yanel we do not need releases anymore (except from a marketing
point of view), but can continuously upgrade at any time and it handles
arbitrary amount of content without a problem
Yanel is not perfect and definitely needs some polishing, but since
using it I sleep very well :-), but it makes me sad, that I didn't manage to
pull this off within this community
And yes, Yanel is still Java (and also XML/XSLT) based and I still think
Java is a great language
So, please do not blame Java or its prospects, but start fixing the real
issues.
Cheers
Michael
BTW, recently I did a project using .Net, and I was very positively
suprised and think it would be a viable alternative. We could finally
get rid of those endorsed libraries issues and of all our legacy code.
Maybe there are other platforms worth considering? E.g. Ruby on Rails?
[1] http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/no_more_java_7
WDYT? Any comments are greatly appreciated!
-- Andreas
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