Hi,

Marcin Miłkowski wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> the problem is that the Java API has changed. So our extension that used the 
> old API cannot find classes in new jars, and because of this fact you cannot 
> uninstall it via the Extension Manager. Moreover, you cannot even specify the 
> maximum allowed version for an extension (we wanted to do so), as this was 
> introduced in 3.1, so it doesn't work for 3.0.0.
> 
> Probably another workaround would be to manually copy the old jar to the 
> extension directory and add it to the classpath, then use unopkg to remove 
> the extension. In Linux, this is probably easily scriptable. In Windows, I'm 
> not so sure... If you have any other suggestions, we will be grateful.
> 
> This is a limitation of the Extension infrastructure, actually. The required 
> maximum version feature is already implemented so this is already fixed for 
> future versions of OOo.
> 
> Regards
> Marcin
> 


I do not consider the implementation of a maximum version to be a fix
for not being able to uninstall/upgrade extensions, even though the API
incompatibility has happened.

If it is about updating the Office: If on the next start, after the
office update, incompatible extensions are found those should be
automatically disabled before the office gets started. Or at least they
should be disabled and then the Office automatically restarted once more
if necessary.
Firefox and Thunderbird for example seem to be able to do that...

And in respect to updating an extension: if the extension identifier
matches and a new version is found the old version should be disabled
(and removed on next start) while the new version is to be enabled with
the next office start. Of course a new version of the extension must
always match the current API of the Office.
I fail to see why this should not work.


TL->SB,JL: Maybe you like to add some comment from a perspective with
more insight to the specific problems. :-)
(for more details on the actual problem see below or check the
lingucomponent list)


Regards,
Thomas



> 
> Dnia 28 stycznia 2009 12:49 Mathias Bauer <[email protected]> napisał(a):
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> can you explain more deeply what the exact problem is? Is it a general
>> problem in our extensions infrastructure?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mathias
>> 
>> Marcin Miłkowski wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi William, 
>> > 
>> > I have just made a wiki page with instructions for users:
>> > 
>> > http://languagetool.wikidot.com/removing-languagetool-0-9-5-from-openoffice-3-0-1
>> > 
>> > But this is not very user-friendly as data loss seems to be inevitable in 
>> > many cases. I have no easy procedure for saving unaffected settings and 
>> > templates.
>> > 
>> > And yes, I should have mentioned that using a singleton is really 
>> > important. Equally important is to make the main checking method 
>> > synchronized, otherwise your checker might be not ready with previous 
>> > check and get another query. This results with incorrect behavior.
>> > 
>> > Regards
>> > Marcin
>> > 
>> > Dnia 28 stycznia 2009 11:47 William Colen  napisał(a):
>> > 
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> 
>> >> LanguageTool developers already pointed an issue that one must de-install
>> >> the Grammar Checker extension compatible with OOo 3.0.0 before upgrading 
>> >> to
>> >> OOo 3.0.1. I found the same issue with Cogroo. It looks like we can't 
>> >> remove
>> >> the extension anymore in this case.
>> >> Does anybody know a user friendly procedure that we could point to the 
>> >> users
>> >> if they have this problem? I'm sure it will happen a lot and they will not
>> >> be happy with loosing all their configurations and extensions.
>> >> 
>> >> Thank you
>> >> William
>> >> 
>> >> PS: Thank you Thomas and Marcin. I could fix Cogroo, it was an
>> >> initialization problem. I notice that Cogroo was not singleton. That is 
>> >> what
>> >> happens when one start doing things without studding the homework!
>> >> 
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